Dennis Taylor threatens to overrule no vote

[DirtySouth]

Holy Crap I told you guys this was a possibility and now your crying about it. All you guys said was it will be well over 50% voting no. Well you guys were wrong. Don’t attack me when I tried to warn you. It’s called apathy.

I criticized the decision and how it could affect the entire American labor movement. @Brownslave688 even pointed out how this could ignite National RTW with a Congress and a President that would be more than happy to pull the trigger.

Then I asked you your opinion on Taylor promising to utilize this clause in the constitution; nowhere was I crying or bemoaning it as "it is what it is."

 

[Brownslave688]

Holy Crap I told you guys this was a possibility and now your crying about it. All you guys said was it will be well over 50% voting no. Well you guys were wrong. Don’t attack me when I tried to warn you. It’s called apathy.

No one ever said it would be over 50%. Only that it's not a final offer.

 

[BrownMonk]

So FZ says a statement was made and puts it in a letter and now it is fact. LMAO. I think I remember that he has announced a run for office and might have an agenda. The vote is just over a day away so I think I'll wait to react.

 

[DirtySouth]

We talk about this every contract. It’s always a possibility that is brought up.

I warned you. You guys were so over confident.

Expecting a democratic organization to uphold democratic ideals (even when loopholes exist to circumvent them) is not being "overconfident."

 

[Jackburton]

No I did, long before you picked up on it.

To be honest, I saw your post about this possibility first.

 

[LagunaBrown]

Expecting a democratic organization to uphold democratic ideals (even when loopholes exist to circumvent them) is not being "overconfident."

You do realize they are legally bound by the constitution. Some vote no person told you a lie and you chose to believe it.

 

[542thruNthru]

You do realize they are legally bound by the constitution. Some vote no person told you a lie and you chose to believe it.

(2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid
ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting
shall be required to reject such final offer and to
authorize a strike. The failure of such membership
to reject the final offer and to authorize a strike as
herein provided shall require the negotiating committee
to accept such final offer or such additional
provisions as can be negotiated by it."

Hmmm seems to me they can legally go back to the table.

 

[LagunaBrown]

(2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid
ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting
shall be required to reject such final offer and to
authorize a strike. The failure of such membership
to reject the final offer and to authorize a strike as
herein provided shall require the negotiating committee
to accept such final offer or such additional
provisions as can be negotiated by it."

Hmmm seems to me they can legally go back to the table.

Are you guys still gonna play this game? The real problem is members not voting. Period.

 

[Mooseknuckle]

We talk about this every contract. It’s always a possibility that is brought up.

I warned you. You guys were so over confident.

I just got off the phone with Ballot Point. They don't know how many people have voted. Please stop your gloating until at least there is something to gloat about.

 

[Jones]

If less than half the members vote, we'll get the contract we deserve.

 

[542thruNthru]

Are you guys still gonna play this game? The real problem is members not voting. Period.

The real problem is you want to win at any cost and don't care how it happens. I'm happy with a yes or no. Im not happy with being handed something that was not agree on.

Yes the member didn't vote. But your legal line is bs.

 

[LagunaBrown]

I just got off the phone with Ballot Point. They don't know how many people have voted. Please stop your gloating until at least there is something to gloat about.

There really is nothing to gloat about. I could live with a yes or no vote but mmbers not voting actually pisses me off. Apathy Sucks!

 

[Brownslave688]

You do realize they are legally bound by the constitution. Some vote no person told you a lie and you chose to believe it.

I sure hope this contract includes some chapstick and new knee pads for you. You've earned them.

 

[Mooseknuckle]

There really is nothing to gloat about. I could live with a yes or no vote but mmbers not voting actually pisses me off. Apathy Sucks!

Pisses me off too.

 

[LagunaBrown]

The real problem is you want to win at any cost and don't care how it happens. I'm not happy with a yes or no. Im happy with being handed something that was not agree on.

Yes the member didn't vote. But your legal line is bs.

They are legally bound. Sorry if you can’t understand that. (Post a creative emoji charm if your upset.)

 

[LagunaBrown]

I sure hope this contract includes some chapstick and new knee pads for you. You've earned them.

You gotta hate even when I warmed you. Grow up. Besides it’s not official yet cupcake.

 

[542thruNthru]

They are legally bound. Sorry if you can’t understand that. (Post a creative emoji charm if your upset.)

Legally bound. Please tell me what the last line means in this?

(2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid
ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting
shall be required to reject such final offer and to
authorize a strike. The failure of such membership
to reject the final offer and to authorize a strike as
herein provided shall require the negotiating committee
to accept such final offer or such additional
provisions as can be negotiated by it."

 

[LagunaBrown]

Legally bound. Please tell me what the last line means in this?

(2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid
ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting
shall be required to reject such final offer and to
authorize a strike. The failure of such membership
to reject the final offer and to authorize a strike as
herein provided shall require the negotiating committee
to accept such final offer or such additional
provisions as can be negotiated by it."

Have Fred protest it and see where it goes. I’m not going to argue with you.

 

[542thruNthru]

Have Fred protest it and see where it goes. I’m not going to argue with you.

Lol of course you won't argue with me. You're "legally bound"

 

[Jackburton]

There really is nothing to gloat about. I could live with a yes or no vote but mmbers not voting actually pisses me off. Apathy Sucks!

That’s one of the first things I can agree with you on. I’m a no vote through and through, but if the majority vote it through, then so be it. I won’t be bitter or pussed about it, I did my part and that’s all I can do.