Do companies hate Universal Healthcare because it makes you less reliant on them?

If you had Universal Healthcare would u work at UPS?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Look for other employment

  • I like driving

  • I have no skills


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Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
That is a very good question. I’d like to learn more about this. That blame should fall on union leadership, right?
Maybe. You know how much the company was handing over for healthcare. Where did that negotiated funding, now not used, go? Did the union hand it back?
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
lol really? You’re blaming Obama for this? That’s parody levels of nonsense
Yes, blaming Obama for everyone having “health insurance” no matter that it’s meaningless. You’re still not gonna get the care you deserve you’ll get the care they want to give you. You’ll still pay through the nose, but you got that card in your pocket thanks to Obama if you didn’t have coverage through your employer. Certainly has made the insurance companies even richer since Obamacare started.

People like you for being happy about a murder is parody level nonsense. I guess it’s open season on CEOs I mean after all how many lives Carol ruined the last couple years?
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
Yes, blaming Obama for everyone having “health insurance” no matter that it’s meaningless. You’re still not gonna get the care you deserve you’ll get the care they want to give you. You’ll still pay through the nose, but you got that card in your pocket thanks to Obama if you didn’t have coverage through your employer. Certainly has made the insurance companies even richer since Obamacare started.

People like you for being happy about a murder is parody level nonsense. I guess it’s open season on CEOs I mean after all how many lives Carol ruined the last couple years?
I already said I wasn’t happy, I said I didn’t care as much.

ACA is nowhere near perfect, but it at least allows for pre existing conditions. But blaming Obama for this is just dumb.

But Trump is president and he controls the house and senate now, so maybe he will get rid of it and install a genius and perfect health care system for us
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
I already said I wasn’t happy, I said I didn’t care as much.

ACA is nowhere near perfect, but it at least allows for pre existing conditions. But blaming Obama for this is just dumb.

But Trump is president and he controls the house and senate now, so maybe he will get rid of it and install a genius and perfect health care system for us
Both sides are hoping one of the other can fix it. Neither one will fix it. When you mix politics and healthcare, all you get is politics.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
well you said it’s Obama’s fault, so Trump should get rid of the ACA and that will make things better right? What next should be done to make it better?
The Healthcare system is based off profit. If there is no profit, we do not have a healthcare system because people won’t work in the healthcare system if they cannot be profitable.

If that CEO did something illegal, we’ll never know because he’s dead now.
If you ever want to get knee-deep in some good reading open up your policy and see the kind of things that can be denied or loopholes you have to jump through to get certain things….and we have a good policy. You will be discouraged.
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
The Healthcare system is based off profit. If there is no profit, we do not have a healthcare system because people won’t work in the healthcare system if they cannot be profitable.

If that CEO did something illegal, we’ll never know because he’s dead now.
If you ever want to get knee-deep in some good reading open up your policy and see the kind of things that can be denied or loopholes you have to jump through to get certain things….and we have a good policy. You will be discouraged.
Why are you stating obvious things that everyone knows and is the reason for the discussion of this murder?

You said this is Obama’s fault. So if Trump cares he will try and repeal the ACA, right? That will allow insurance companies to deny people with pre existing conditions again, maybe you think that’s a good thing, I don’t know

But I asked you what do you think should be done to the health care system to make it better?
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
Why are you stating obvious things that everyone knows and is the reason for the discussion of this murder?

You said this is Obama’s fault. So if Trump cares he will try and repeal the ACA, right? That will allow insurance companies to deny people with pre existing conditions again, maybe you think that’s a good thing, I don’t know

But I asked you what do you think should be done to the health care system to make it better?
I just told you. You just don’t listen, the more the federal governments involved the less coverage and Care you’ll actually get.. Your only answer is to have someone in the government fix it. Hasn’t worked so far and never will work. And I doubt it will ever change.

The unintended consequences every time the government gets involved in this are staggering and expand more and more.
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
I just told you. You just don’t listen, the more the federal governments involved the less coverage and Care you’ll actually get.. Your only answer is to have someone in the government fix it. Hasn’t worked so far and never will work. And I doubt it will ever change.

The unintended consequences every time the government gets involved in this are staggering and expand more and more.
So what do you think Trump should do to make it better? Leave it up completely to the “for profit” health insurance companies?

You think giving massive corporations free rein will allow them to give us better coverage? Have you been living under a rock? They care about profit. And them “giving” us healthcare reduces their profit. They will deny even more to more people. No more coverage for people with pre existing conditions.

No government involvement? Poor people now don’t get health insurance. And neither do poor children.

If they’re not held accountable in any way, it will only get worse for the people. Corporations got massive tax cuts from Trump, they have steadily been getting record profits, and they still raised the prices on Americans and lowered the quantity, or shrinkflation

Corporations don’t care about us. They care about quarterly profits.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
So what do you think Trump should do to make it better? Leave it up completely to the “for profit” health insurance companies?

You think giving massive corporations free rein will allow them to give us better coverage? Have you been living under a rock? They care about profit. And them “giving” us healthcare reduces their profit. They will deny even more to more people. No more coverage for people with pre existing conditions.

No government involvement? Poor people now don’t get health insurance. And neither do poor children.

If they’re not held accountable in any way, it will only get worse for the people. Corporations got massive tax cuts from Trump, they have steadily been getting record profits, and they still raised the prices on Americans and lowered the quantity, or shrinkflation

Corporations don’t care about us. They care about quarterly profits.
Well, if you think Obama care has made us healthier ask @rickyb how Americans are faring in regards to our health and longevity?

All businesses care about profit. Yet Somehow, the government regulated businesses are some of the most corrupt. 🤔
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
Well, if you think Obama care has made us healthier ask @rickyb how Americans are faring in regards to our health and longevity?

All businesses care about profit. Yet Somehow, the government regulated businesses are some of the most corrupt. 🤔
Great logic. America is the only first world nation without universal healthcare. Surely giving for profit corporations even more free rein and power will make things better for the working man in America!
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
Great logic. America is the only first world nation without universal healthcare. Surely giving for profit corporations even more free rein and power will make things better for the working man in America!
And the universal healthcare model is failing as well. Much of Canada’s healthcare crisis is because they can’t hire people and pay them enough to stay. Ricky B is even quitting.


“Canada is currently facing a significant healthcare crisis due to a severe shortage of doctors and nurses, making it difficult for hospitals and clinics to hire qualified medical professionals, leading to long wait times for patients and concerns about access to care”
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Still didn’t deserve to be gunned down in the streets.
I stopped caring as much when I saw a letter from a doctor to the insurance company criticizing them for denying a kid with cancer his nausea medication
So it's okay to murder leaders when their organization does something you don't like...

Yep, you're a leftist alright.
This is one of the very rare moments where liberals and conservatives seem to be agreeing, it’s been overwhelming and the media seems to not like it
No, they do not agree.
No, the media is not upset people are celebrating assassinations, they're happy about it.
Healthcare companies are parasitic bottom feeders.
That's like saying doctors are parasitic bottom feeders because they are expensive.
 
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