Do companies hate Universal Healthcare because it makes you less reliant on them?

[Thebrownblob]

No regulation is far worse than regulation when it comes to healthcare. It's like saying there shouldn't be any driving laws because there's still accidents and deaths. Makes no ing sense.

Since you’re here, I was wondering how you felt about one of your heroes being accused of raping a little kid?

Jay-Z accused in a civil lawsuit of raping a 13-year-old girl in 2000 along with Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs

Jay-Z responded with a lengthy statement calling the allegations "idiotic." The accuser is anonymous.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Doublestandards]

Never defended the Republicans for not doing it and definitely said that Democrats were the ones that broke it. Only took 50 years to make it right, but at least they did it

You did defend them, and you certainly didn’t criticize them for not doing so. Not a single Republican voted to save teamsters pensions. Not one. And you made quite a bit of excuses and still found a way to blame democrats

 

[Doublestandards]

Since you’re here, I was wondering how you felt about one of your heroes being accused of raping a little kid?

Jay-Z accused in a civil lawsuit of raping a 13-year-old girl in 2000 along with Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs

Jay-Z responded with a lengthy statement calling the allegations "idiotic." The accuser is anonymous.

www.nbcnews.com

He wasn’t found guilty in a court. Trump was. So you’re saying Trump did it?

 

[Thebrownblob]

You did defend them, and you certainly didn’t criticize them for not doing so. Not a single Republican voted to save teamsters pensions. Not one. And you made quite a bit of excuses and still found a way to blame democrats

Nope, I said it was a partisan bill. Which it was, if it would’ve been the other way, doubtful many Democrats would’ve voted for either. Donald Trump had four years to do it and he didn’t do it. There’s no denying that.

 

[Thebrownblob]

He wasn’t found guilty in a court. Trump was. So you’re saying Trump did it?

I said accused. Reading comprehension is important.

Diddy is only accused and he’s sitting in a jail cell. I wonder if Jay Z will join him while he waits?

 

[Doublestandards]

Nope, I said it was a partisan bill. Which it was if it would’ve been the other way, doubtful many Democrats would’ve voted for either. Donald Trump had four years to do it and he didn’t do it. There’s no denying that

How was it a partisan bill? It was a vote on saving teamsters pensions.

It’s amazing you’re still blaming democrats in a hypothetical situation. When we were about to go on strike, dozens of democrats publicly voiced their support for us. No republicans did. It’s silly to suggest democrats wouldn’t have voted for it if the roles were reversed. They’ve publicly made it clear how they both feel about unions

Republicans had no problem bailing out banks and corporations when Obama was president. They made it very clear they don’t care about union workers. Not one single vote to save the teamsters pension

 

[Thebrownblob]

How was it a partisan bill? It was a vote on saving teamsters pensions.

It’s amazing you’re still blaming democrats in a hypothetical situation. When we were about to go on strike, dozens of democrats publicly voiced their support for us. No republicans did. It’s silly to suggest democrats wouldn’t have voted for it if the roles were reversed. They’ve publicly made it clear how they both feel about unions

Republicans had no problem bailing out banks and corporations when Obama was president. They made it very clear they don’t care about union workers. Not one single vote to save the teamsters pension

Blaming Democrats for what hypothetical situation? They did cause the central states pension to fail with the passage of deregulation. That’s not hypothetical.

 

[Doublestandards]

Blaming Democrats for what hypothetical situation? They did cause the central states pension to fail with the passage of deregulation. That’s not hypothetical.

“Nope, I said it was a partisan bill. Which it was, if it would’ve been the other way, doubtful many Democrats would’ve voted for either.”

So earlier you’re saying regulation is bad, and now it’s democrats fault for deregulating and that’s why republicans didn’t vote to save teamsters pensions

Tell me, how many republicans also voted to deregulate the industry then?

And what does a choice politicians made almost 50 years ago matter with how politicians are voting to save it today?

If the roles were reversed, you would not be defending democrats the way you are republicans

Like I said, republicans had no issues bailing out banks and corporations while Obama was president, but you sure have a lot of excuses for why republicans didn’t bail out teamsters pensions today. Not one single vote

And what’s crazy is the tie breaking vote came down to Kamala Harris. If Trump had won in 2020, the remasters pension would not have been saved

 

[Thebrownblob]

“Nope, I said it was a partisan bill. Which it was, if it would’ve been the other way, doubtful many Democrats would’ve voted for either.”

So earlier you’re saying regulation is bad, and now it’s democrats fault for deregulating and that’s why republicans didn’t vote to save teamsters pensions

Tell me, how many republicans also voted to deregulate the industry then?

And what does a choice politicians made almost 50 years ago matter with how politicians are voting to save it today?

If the roles were reversed, you would not be defending democrats the way you are republicans

Like I said, republicans had no issues bailing out banks and corporations while Obama was president, but you sure have a lot of excuses for why republicans didn’t bail out teamsters pensions today. Not one single vote

And what’s crazy is the tie breaking vote came down to Kamala Harris. If Trump had won in 2020, the remasters pension would not have been saved

Our pension was set up when the government (Jimmy Carter administration) regulated an industry.. that is the only way our pension was going to survive. The government knew that and they pulled the rug out from under the union by deregulating.

And I absolutely agree with you if Trump had won in 2020 it’s likely the pension would not have been bailed out. at least not the way it was. But something certainly would’ve had happened, by 2025 central states would have completely been broke at that point, as well as other pension plans. That many people losing that much money would’ve been and economic crisis.

Truckers Feel the Burn of Deregulation : Unfettered competition helps some firms, but workers pay the price in lost wages, benefits.

Conservatives and even some liberals are increasingly trying to peddle the muddled theory that cutthroat competition in a market economy is great for everyone, everywhere.

www.latimes.com

How a little-known 1980 law slashed pay for millions of truck drivers and created big-box retail as we know it

Online shopping and big-box retail likely wouldn't exist today without the deregulation of the trucking industry 40 years ago this month.

www.businessinsider.com

My opinion of government regulation is irrelevant to the fact that it was regulated, and the people that set the pension up were assured it would be a regulated industry. More government unintended consequences by meddling.

 

[Doublestandards]

Our pension was set up when the government (Jimmy Carter administration) regulated an industry.. that is the only way our pension was going to survive. The government knew that and they pulled the rug out from under the union by deregulating.

And I absolutely agree with you if Trump had won in 2020 it’s likely the pension would not have been bailed out. at least not the way it was. But something certainly would’ve had happened, by 2025 central states would have completely been broke at that point, as well as other pension plans. That many people losing that much money would’ve been and economic crisis.

Truckers Feel the Burn of Deregulation : Unfettered competition helps some firms, but workers pay the price in lost wages, benefits.

Conservatives and even some liberals are increasingly trying to peddle the muddled theory that cutthroat competition in a market economy is great for everyone, everywhere.

www.latimes.com

How a little-known 1980 law slashed pay for millions of truck drivers and created big-box retail as we know it

Online shopping and big-box retail likely wouldn't exist today without the deregulation of the trucking industry 40 years ago this month.

www.businessinsider.com

My opinion of government regulation is irrelevant to the fact that it was regulated, and the people that set the pension up were assured it would be a regulated industry. More government unintended consequences by meddling.

I’m just saying that you’re barely criticizing republicans for not voting to save the pensions. In fact, you found a way to put more blame on democrats. Like I said, how many republicans voted to deregulate also? Carter signed it, but Congress passed it. And that’s ignoring the fact of excusing not bailing out a pension from a choice politicians made 50 years ago. It’s a whole new team and new people. It’s not the pensioners fault, why shouldn’t they get bailed out like the corporations did?

You said it was a a partisan bill, I don’t understand how voting to save pensions is partisan, but even ignoring that, republicans had no problem bailing out corporations when Obama was president.

Republicans hate unions and they don’t care about union workers. And they made that known with their vote

 

[nWo]

 

[Thebrownblob]

I’m just saying that you’re barely criticizing republicans for not voting to save the pensions. In fact, you found a way to put more blame on democrats. Like I said, how many republicans voted to deregulate also? Carter signed it, but Congress passed it. And that’s ignoring the fact of excusing not bailing out a pension from a choice politicians made 50 years ago. It’s a whole new team and new people. It’s not the pensioners fault, why shouldn’t they get bailed out like the corporations did?

You said it was a a partisan bill, I don’t understand how voting to save pensions is partisan, but even ignoring that, republicans had no problem bailing out corporations when Obama was president.

Republicans hate unions and they don’t care about union workers. And they made that known with their vote

I think you missed the point completely, our teamster President made the point quite nicely when he pointed out that we’ve been getting screwed by the Democrats just as much as Republicans for 50 years.

We cannot talk about bailing out a pension fund when the whole domino effect was started by a Democrat. Who cares if Republicans voted for it I thought we expected them to. We don’t expect Democrats to do that and they’ve done it to us over and over again..

The Democrat party has drifted away from representing blue-collar people. Maybe you’re the only one that hasn’t noticed that.

Republican party made a huge push to blue-collar voters in this election because they saw that the Democrats had dropped the ball.

Does that mean I believe Republicans will do what they say? Not necessarily, but they got the ball now so we shall see.

If O’Brien is successful and manages to get enough people on the Republican side to vote for the ProAct and manages to get Trump to sign the bill, it will be a huge win.

 

[Doublestandards]

I think you missed the point completely, our teamster President made the point quite nicely when he pointed out that we’ve been getting screwed by the Democrats just as much as Republicans for 50 years.

We cannot talk about bailing out a pension fund when the whole domino effect was started by a Democrat. Who cares if Republicans voted for it I thought we expected them to. We don’t expect Democrats to do that and they’ve done it to us over and over again..

The Democrat party has drifted away from representing blue-collar people. Maybe you’re the only one that hasn’t noticed that.

Republican party made a huge push to blue-collar voters in this election because they saw that the Democrats had dropped the ball.

Does that mean I believe Republicans will do what they say? Not necessarily, but they got the ball now so we shall see.

If O’Brien is successful and manages to get enough people on the Republican side to vote for the ProAct and manages to get Trump to sign the bill, it will be a huge win.

You keep saying the democrats don’t have the blue collar workers sides, yet they are the only ones who voted to save our pension

Your argument is that 50 years ago both republicans and democrats voted to deregulate. That is no exscuse for why they didn’t vote to save the blue collar workers pensions TODAY. Republicans and democrats both voted for it, but since a president 50 years ago, who most union workers didn’t vote for, signed it through, the workers today have to take the fall?

Did politicians have no blame in why the banks needed to be bailed out? Or any of other Wall Street?

Republican states have right to work states, which teamsters said goal is to bankrupt unions

Republicans didn’t have one single vote to save blue collar workers pensions


What more would you like democrats to do for unions? Because they are undeniably doing much much more for union workers than republicans are

 

[Thebrownblob]

How was it a partisan bill? It was a vote on saving teamsters pensions.

You keep saying the democrats don’t have the blue collar workers sides, yet they are the only ones who voted to save our pension

Your argument is that 50 years ago both republicans and democrats voted to regulate. That is no exscuse for why they didn’t vote to save the blue collar workers pensions TODAY

Did politicians have no blame in why the banks needed to be bailed out? Or any of other Wall Street?

Republican states have right to work states, which teamsters said goal is to bankrupt unions

Republicans didn’t have one single vote to save blue collar workers pensions


What more would you like democrats to do for unions? Because they are undeniably doing much much more for union workers than republicans are

You keep saying I’m saying it, I’m only saying what everyone else is saying. Like I said, you must’ve missed the memo.

Democrats make a lot of promises and they get a lot of money from us. Public sector unions are dying. We cannot continue this way.

Democrats lost working-class voters to Trump ― even in this blue bastion

Massachusetts experienced one of the most profound rightward shifts of any state in the country, largely driven by working-class communities.

www.usatoday.com

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/14/nx-s1-5183060/why-working-class-voters-have-been-shifting-toward-the-republican-party

Why so many blue-collar workers drifted from Democrats

New book puts mid-century unions at center of Rust Belt identity and social life. Shifting economy splintered community and fostered disillusionment.

news.harvard.edu

Democrats' working-class exodus sets off reckoning within party

Democrats have long prided themselves as the party of the little guy. But Trump's victory saw working-class voters continue to flock from Democrats.

www.usatoday.com

5 Democratic assumptions shattered by the 2024 election: From the Politics Desk

Plus, special counsel Jack Smith files to drop all federal charges against Trump. And Biden pardons his final turkeys.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

You are a proud scab and racist. Now you are making death threats. Nice.

I didn't make any death threats.
Stop crying.

You celebrated leftist terrorism murder.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
But you have no self respect or dignity so you're not.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

You tell me. That's what your side believes.

You said you don't believe a black guy can be a CEO, not me. I guess you changed your mind.

 

[Doublestandards]

You keep saying I’m saying it, I’m only saying what everyone else is saying. Like I said, you must’ve missed the memo.

Democrats make a lot of promises and they get a lot of money from us. Public sector unions are dying. We cannot continue this way.

Democrats lost working-class voters to Trump ― even in this blue bastion

Massachusetts experienced one of the most profound rightward shifts of any state in the country, largely driven by working-class communities.

www.usatoday.com

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/14/nx-s1-5183060/why-working-class-voters-have-been-shifting-toward-the-republican-party

Why so many blue-collar workers drifted from Democrats

New book puts mid-century unions at center of Rust Belt identity and social life. Shifting economy splintered community and fostered disillusionment.

news.harvard.edu

Democrats' working-class exodus sets off reckoning within party

Democrats have long prided themselves as the party of the little guy. But Trump's victory saw working-class voters continue to flock from Democrats.

www.usatoday.com

5 Democratic assumptions shattered by the 2024 election: From the Politics Desk

Plus, special counsel Jack Smith files to drop all federal charges against Trump. And Biden pardons his final turkeys.

www.nbcnews.com

And yet republican states are the one with right to work. Republican politicians are the ones who didn’t vote to save our pension. Republican politicians are the ones who didn’t publicly have our back during negations

You give a lot more leeway to republicans than you do democrats. I completley understand having conservative views for identity politics, or differences on social spending or foreign affairs, but when it comes to union workers, democrats have been and still are undeniably more on the working class side than republicans are

That is a big point of voting for politicians, to publicly show where they stand. They voted to bail out corporations and Wall Street. They did not vote to bail out blue collar workers

You say it was a partisan bill, but there was no issues voting to bail out wall street by republicans when Obama was president

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

How was it a partisan bill? It was a vote on saving teamsters pensions.

What was the name?

 

[Thebrownblob]

And yet republican states are the one with right to work. Republican politicians are the ones who didn’t vote to save our pension. Republican politicians are the ones who didn’t publicly have our back during negations

You give a lot more leeway to republicans than you do democrats. I completley understand having conservative views for identity politics, or differences on social spending or foreign affairs, but when it comes to union workers, democrats have been and still are undeniably more on the working class side than republicans are

That is a big point of voting for politicians, to publicly show where they stand. They voted to bail out corporations and Wall Street. They did not vote to bail out blue collar workers

You say it was a partisan bill, but there was no issues voting to bail out wall street by republicans when Obama was president

And yet voters are disagreed with you. Matter fact, you were the one that said you didn’t think any people didn’t vote for Trump last time would vote for him this time. It’s amazing how much you’ve been wrong and still continue to pretend you know what you’re talking about..

I’m not giving credit to anyone. I’m just pointing out the facts.

Truthfully, this might’ve just been the ass kicking the Democrats needed. Republicans have two years to prove that they’re going to do something and the Democrats had two years. that Republicans did not do it, and the Democrats should be given another chance.

This is a time for the Democrats to look in the mirror and figure out what they did wrong. Their message was completely rejected by blue-collar workers.

I don’t know how you can complete bailing out the banks with anything we’re talking about or pretending I ever agreed with that either.

You keep saying I should criticize the Republicans, but why. Would I criticize a lion for doing things lions do? I thought we were under the assumption that Republicans were the enemy of working people?. And yet they just won an election, probably almost completely to blue color workers. by catering to blue color people and what they said they wanted and what they would do.

 

[Thebrownblob]

And yet republican states are the one with right to work. Republican politicians are the ones who didn’t vote to save our pension. Republican politicians are the ones who didn’t publicly have our back during negations

You give a lot more leeway to republicans than you do democrats. I completley understand having conservative views for identity politics, or differences on social spending or foreign affairs, but when it comes to union workers, democrats have been and still are undeniably more on the working class side than republicans are

That is a big point of voting for politicians, to publicly show where they stand. They voted to bail out corporations and Wall Street. They did not vote to bail out blue collar workers

You say it was a partisan bill, but there was no issues voting to bail out wall street by republicans when Obama was president

Pension bills have always been bipartisan. Not anymore.

With time running out for 1.5 million retirees, Democrats took action.

www.brookings.edu