Do companies hate Universal Healthcare because it makes you less reliant on them?

If you had Universal Healthcare would u work at UPS?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Look for other employment

  • I like driving

  • I have no skills


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Doublestandards

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And the universal healthcare model is failing as well. Much of Canada’s healthcare crisis is because they can’t hire people and pay them enough to stay. Ricky B is even quitting.
The same exact thing is happening in America. Except we also pay a lot more for healthcare and have people going bankrupt because of medical bills

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rickyb

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And the universal healthcare model is failing as well. Much of Canada’s healthcare crisis is because they can’t hire people and pay them enough to stay. Ricky B is even quitting.


“Canada is currently facing a significant healthcare crisis due to a severe shortage of doctors and nurses, making it difficult for hospitals and clinics to hire qualified medical professionals, leading to long wait times for patients and concerns about access to care”
i can easily see a regular doctor. but many of us dont have a family doctor. its just walk in. its not as good but theyre good.

emergency room is based on urgency. if its not urgent you will wait maybe 4 hours idk depending on where and what time you go. and then all those other things i mentioned. i think a lot of countries have shortages of nurses. doesnt america have a shortage of nurses as well? our 4 year nurses make 90000 a year i think. after they changed my schedule i couldnt take it anymore. so since i came back in october.

here they want to privatize it for profit. and our economics has been influenced by reagan. so its under funded. actually its so bad here some hospitals are shut down for 12 hours or maybe more. its just corruption. chomsky says they make it work badly and then privatize it. so were at the first step lol. its not rocket science to pay doctors more or whatever. nurses are overworked.

canada is amongst many other countries like UK, ireland i believe, and america which does not have an organized left.

last i heard about obama care was he got more people insured and did not control costs. and the bill was a 2000 page disaster. i think our healthcare thing is 1 page here.
 

Box Ox

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marry a brit and you dont have ot deal with this crap anymore. its still public there right?


Barely.

Why is Britain’s health service, a much-loved national treasure, falling apart?​


The NHS crisis - decades in the making​

 

Doublestandards

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So thank you for making my point that neither are working.. government intervention isn’t helping. I’m glad you agree.
I don’t agree, if anything your point shows you agree with me. You’ve said yourself are system is terrible now and we are the only first world country without universal healthcare

The points you brought up about nurses and doctors in Canada are going on here now

We pay more for healthcare, and lower lifespan and have people going bankrupt to get the care they need, while the health care companies rake in billions of dollars in profit
 

nWo

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You guys were in tears over a beer can. But you'll defend corporate greed until there's no tomorrow. You have your priorities out of whack.
 

Thebrownblob

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I don’t agree, if anything your point shows you agree with me. You’ve said yourself are system is terrible now and we are the only first world country without universal healthcare

The points you brought up about nurses and doctors in Canada are going on here now

We pay more for healthcare, and lower lifespan and have people going bankrupt to get the care they need, while the health care companies rake in billions of dollars in profit
And the healthcare companies and the pharmaceutical companies are heavily government regulated. My point does not show I agree with you at all lol, in Canada, you may not even get healthcare. In America, you can get it and go bankrupt. Neither system is great
 

Thebrownblob

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No see I didn’t wish him dead.
I didn’t even know the guy.
I’m just glad he is dead.
You didn’t know him, but you’re glad he’s dead?
What if He was about to spill the beans on the whole system? What if he was the hero that we never got to hear from? Really don’t even know what he was killed for, or who killed him. It does appear the killer is having a good deal of fun writing words on bullets and leaving a backpack full of monopoly money.
Either way, I just don’t know enough about this guy. Other than he was rich. Last I checked, that’s not illegal and I hope we’re just not gonna start killing rich people and celebrating. Or being glad.
 

Doublestandards

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And the healthcare companies and the pharmaceutical companies are heavily government regulated. My point does not show I agree with you at all lol, in Canada, you may not even get healthcare. In America, you can get it and go bankrupt. Neither system is great
You may have to wait longer for elective surgeries in Canada, but if you have something serious and life threatening you will be taken care of not drain your families life savings just to survive. Children with cancer aren’t denied their anti nausea medication and their parents don’t have to drain their college fund to pay for it

And if you want private health care, you can still get it and pay for It, just like Rand Paul did when he flew to Canada for his surgery
 

Doublestandards

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And the healthcare companies and the pharmaceutical companies are heavily government regulated. My point does not show I agree with you at all lol, in Canada, you may not even get healthcare. In America, you can get it and go bankrupt. Neither system is great
And yet Americans also pay over 200% more for the same prescription drugs than they do in Canada

Who would have thought? Paying billionaire corporate for profit middle men will increase costs for the consumer?

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MAKAVELI

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And the healthcare companies and the pharmaceutical companies are heavily government regulated. My point does not show I agree with you at all lol, in Canada, you may not even get healthcare. In America, you can get it and go bankrupt. Neither system is great
No regulation is far worse than regulation when it comes to healthcare. It's like saying there shouldn't be any driving laws because there's still accidents and deaths. Makes no :censored2:ing sense.
 

Thebrownblob

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No regulation is far worse than regulation when it comes to healthcare. It's like saying there shouldn't be any driving laws because there's still accidents and deaths. Makes no :censored2:ing sense.
Sure a lot more red tape is just what we need. Nothing like making sure insurance companies and the government get to tell doctors how to do their job. You’re analogy. is ignorant. What a shock.
 

Thebrownblob

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And yet you were defending republicans for not voting to save teamsters pensions, and your reasoning was it was democrats faults for deregulating the industry
Never defended the Republicans for not doing it and definitely said that Democrats were the ones that broke it. Only took 50 years to make it right, but at least they did it
 
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