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Thebrownblob

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It just getting harder and harder to deal with more "buying opportunities"


Especially when you have a good size nest egg.

I want to walk the people that are retired now and looking at their portfolio to provide a little extra income for them?
Yep when you get to the point of your career like you, and even me to a little lesser extent myself because I have a little while to go. You begin to sweat the market swings. I remember 2008 being concerned but not overly worried even though it sounded like the world was going to end. I’m sure guys getting ready to retire were crapping bricks.
 
Yep when you get to the point of your career like you, and even me to a little lesser extent myself because I have a little while to go. You begin to sweat the market swings. I remember 2008 being concerned but not overly worried even though it sounded like the world was going to end. I’m sure guys getting ready to retire were crapping bricks.
And many of those people pulled all of the money out of the market and never got a chance to recoup it back.
 

Thebrownblob

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Even though the market is gone right now it's still a lot higher now than it was in March of 2020
Someone who was investing in 2003 is still doing quite well today, it’s a long-term thing, that’s why I was telling @rickyb not to cherry pick with 25%. Some people have the philosophy their whole life that it’s of no use to invest. They Make it to retirement and have very little.
 

Up In Smoke

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YearAverage
Closing Price
Year OpenYear HighYear LowYear CloseAnnual
% Change
202234,401.6236,585.0636,799.6531,730.3031,730.30-12.68%
202134,055.2930,223.8936,488.6329,982.6236,338.3018.73%
202026,890.6728,868.8030,606.4818,591.9330,606.487.25%
201926,379.5523,346.2428,645.2622,686.2228,538.4422.34%
201825,046.8624,824.0126,828.3921,792.2023,327.46-5.63%
201721,750.2019,881.7624,837.5119,732.4024,719.2225.08%
201617,927.1117,148.9419,974.6215,660.1819,762.6013.42%
201517,587.0317,832.9918,312.3915,666.4417,425.03-2.23%
201416,777.6916,441.3518,053.7115,372.8017,823.077.52%
201315,009.5213,412.5516,576.6613,328.8516,576.6626.50%
201212,966.4412,397.3813,610.1512,101.4613,104.147.26%
201111,957.5711,670.7512,810.5410,655.3012,217.565.53%
201010,668.5810,583.9611,585.389,686.4811,577.5111.02%
20098,885.659,034.6910,548.516,547.0510,428.0518.82%
200811,244.0613,043.9613,058.207,552.298,776.39-33.84%
200713,178.2612,474.5214,164.5312,050.4113,264.826.43%
200611,409.7810,847.4112,510.5710,667.3912,463.1516.29%
200510,546.6610,729.4310,940.5510,012.3610,717.50-0.61%
200410,315.5110,409.8510,854.549,749.9910,783.013.15%
20039,006.648,607.5210,453.927,524.0610,453.9225.32%

Please don’t cherry pick, the general trend over the last 20 years is by far up.
The tax cut years tend to have the largest return on investment. 2003, 2009, 2013 and 2017 were tax cut years and also coincides with companies ability to buy back stock those same years. Companies don't become worth more, but their stock value increases. Don't be fooled by this.
 

Up In Smoke

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P/E compression still has some work to do. Companies way over valued. Has been a better than average earnings season with the vast majority of companies beating revenue numbers. Next 2 quarters will tell the tale. Can companies afford to pay higher wages and maintain work force numbers?
 

Thebrownblob

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The tax cut years tend to have the largest return on investment. 2003, 2009, 2013 and 2017 were tax cut years and also coincides with companies ability to buy back stock those same years. Companies don't become worth more, but their stock value increases. Don't be fooled by this.
Nothing to be fooled by, look at your own portfolio. The only people being foolish are the ones not investing at all.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
That is not the time to quit investing.
Correct, the chart I showed was not too talk about company profits or their value. Ricky said it was down 25%, but he was cherry picking years. Most people don’t care about any of that stuff they’re going to look at there Investments in 10 to 20 years from now and realize it was a good idea to invest. Investing takes time and goes up and down. Most of us are not daytraders, or stock market gurus, we just want to get to the finish line and have a decent retirement.
 
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