Enough is enough

[Johney]

I need a beer!

Opening a fresh Blue Moon now. Maybe go jump in the pool also.

 

[upschuck]

Locals with healthcare and/or pension funds in poor financial shape will vote on diverting part or all of our raises to the ailing fund(s).

It is not a local thing. Contract clearly states that every one that is in a certain fund would be required to forfeit the same amount, if they took any, so they can not target a local out. That is assuming that a single local doesn't have their own unique plan.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Ours is a Teamster plan.

 

[upschuck]

I just cant figure out why. UPS paid billion to get out of the Central states pension plan.

And put us all in the centeral states health care fund???

Huge down grade for me and my family.

IBT pension plans were/are in bad shape, Teamcare in excellent health. They knew that they would be asked to infuse a lot more money to prop up the pension plan, which a lot of that money would be going to a lot of non upsers.

 

[upschuck]

Ours is a Teamster plan.

Everyone in that plan would get the same reduction in raises, if that were necessary, not just a certain local.

 

[upschuck]

Huge down grade for me and my family.

I am tickled, mainly for the prescription benefit of being free(saved me upwards of $300 so far), plus I should be getting a check from Teamcare since my deductible went down(that is what they claim, we'll see). Sorry for your decrease.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Opening a fresh Blue Moon now. Maybe go jump in the pool also.

You try the Blue Moon pumpkin ale yet? I was in the pool all day today

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Did you ask your wife to help you with the big words?

Stick to what you know....

 

[Johney]

You tru the Blue Moon pumpkin ale yet? I was in the pool all day today

Yea I tried it, wasn't overly impressed although I did finish the six pack.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Yea I tried it, wasn't overly impressed although I did finish the six pack.

It's sweeter than regular BM ....i want to try their fall variety pack next.

 

[Johney]

Stick to what you know....View attachment 16385

Or doesn't know.

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

You better check again Smurfie I just read it in the old contract myself. I was trying to post it but can't.

We also never had Teamacare till now...

 

[Johney]

We also never had Teamacare till now...

Yet I always have and they have not taken my raises. Ever.

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

Yet I always have and they have not taken my raises. Ever.

The ACA wasn't in affect till this year. Obama said his plan to transition employees away from their employer healthcare plans may take a decade or more.

 

[Johney]

The ACA wasn't in affect till this year. Obama said his plan to transition employees away from their employer healthcare plans may take a decade or more.

If that's the case, I'll be long gone by then and won't have to worry about where my raises go.

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

If that's the case, I'll be long gone by then and won't have to worry about where my raises go.

The siphoning of wages takes place during the presidents described transition, not at the end of it, so you'll be around for it.

 

[you aint even know it]

I could care less who gets elected in 2016. All I see in this union are selfish hypocrites who only care about themselves. Everyone keeps blaming part timers for not voting, but I blame the system.

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

Well, well well. The unity is really flowing on this thread. Everyone on hete sounds like a bunch of freshman girls that didn't get asked to the dance by Jake Ryan.

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[Bubblehead]

It is not a local thing. Contract clearly states that every one that is in a certain fund would be required to forfeit the same amount, if they took any, so they can not target a local out. That is assuming that a single local doesn't have their own unique plan.

Like Local 348?

 

[Bubblehead]

Art 34 Sec 4 has been in for a while and has never been used. I have gotten the full raise every year. Check your previous contracts if you do not believe I am telling you the truth. Teamcare is in good health, and new contributions will be based on actual costs in 2016 & 2017, which leaves just 2015, and it is not going south that quickly.

Worry about it if you want, I choose not to.

Then why will we be required to pay an annual deductible in 2017, the last year of the contract?
Yea, we're worried.