Fired for something that happened a month ago?

[El Correcto]

Any reasonable person would have made a phone call after a week. Also I don't know his supplement but I'm sure they mail the notice of termination to people as well.

A reasonable person would of been at the union hall the next day filing a wrongful termination with their BA and sitting with him for at least 10-20 minutes giving him a complete and honest rundown of what he is up against. At the very least scheduling an appointment with your BA to do this.

 

[burrheadd]

This is the full story. This is what happened the week I was terminated. Prior to this week I was filing a grievance on a supervisor and got into an altercation with another employee where they put their hands on me. SO with all this, work was looking for something. Im not sure why the only ammo they got is FROM A MONTH AGO.

Now we’re getting somewhere
Did you put your hands back on said employee

 

[ups556]

Now we’re getting somewhere
Did you put your hands back on said employee

No I did not. I told my steward about the incident and we had a sit down with an investigation representative.

 

[MattM]

At some point, you should have a written description in what you’re being fired for

Around my parts, unless you choose to quit on the spot, or show up to work drunk or visibly on drugs, the 1-3-5 suspension process is intense. Add in warning letters and documented talk with a, and finally a working termination, something seems amiss here

The 10 day window is their biggest miss.

 

[No1 Special]

I called off when my son's pet gold fish passed, and still have my job. GOLDFISH LIVES MATTER.

 

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Hello! On 6/13 I went to work at my local hub, everything was normal as usual until I noticed my building manager by my unload trailer. He then began to question me and ask me if I was ok, trying to get a rise out of me. I told him that I was perfectly fine and I would appreciate if he leave me alone and work. He then tries to defend himself and say he is not harassing me. He then takes it a step further and says he is calling my steward over to talk with me.

About 5 minutes pass by and my steward and security show up at my unload door. The steward advises me to bring my belongings. When I got to the bottom of the ladder he said we were going to the building managers office to have a talk. When we get to his office he begins to question me about my attendance. My manager asked me what happened on 5/14 and why I didnt show up. I told him I dont know and then he proceeds to ask me for my UPS i.d. I talked with my steward for a minute and he told me that the manager is allowed to ask for my i.d which confuses me because they are bringing up something that happened a month ago, and I have gotten no letters in the mail.

The building manager then advises that I be escorted out of the building by security. On our way out we saw our BA walking in the door and stopped to talk with him for a minute. He said that he was going to keep in contact with me and reach out soon. Well, it has been a month since Ive been fired and I have recieved no information about what is going on.


No call or messages from UPS or my union. This whole situation seems fishy and I am not sure if the union is protecting me to the full extent. I messaged my steward 2 days ago and he says because I didnt file a grievance I'm pretty much done. I have been working with UPS for 5 years and still want my job. Are they doing me dirty by not going through the firing/grievance process or can I possibly be rehired? It is just hard for me to understand how they can use something against me a month ago when I even asked for time off, thank you for your time

Call your BA.

 

[Up In Smoke]

We've had a half dozen occasions that drivers had come to work, punch in, look at their dispatch and tell management that they were going home for a variety of reasons. Not a whole lot the company can do with that but cry.

 

[PT Car Washer]

We've had a half dozen occasions that drivers had come to work, punch in, look at their dispatch and tell management that they were going home for a variety of reasons. Not a whole lot the company can do with that but cry.

Call up the air drivers. It's going to be a profitable day.

 

[burrheadd]

How do I go about getting a lawyer,

Seriously? How do you think you would go about getting a lawyer

 

[No1 Special]

Seriously? How do you think you would go about getting a lawyer

Better call Saul.

 

[ManInBrown]

Something is 100% missing from this story. I know of pt hub workers that don’t show up for weeks, one day they come back and no one says a word. UPS can barely get anyone to work, and you’re walked off by security for missing one day a month ago?

 

[Commercial Inside Release]

Further up he mentioned a physical altercation. Probably the real reason. Must be a nice place where loaders & unloaders can't even remember what they were walked off for...

 

[The Range]

This sounds like a theatrical play. In particular, the BA walking in the door as you're walking out.

 

[Brownsocks]

A reasonable person would of been at the union hall the next day filing a wrongful termination with their BA and sitting with him for at least 10-20 minutes giving him a complete and honest rundown of what he is up against. At the very least scheduling an appointment with your BA to do this.

I would have snagged a grievance, filled it out and handed it to the BA as he exited the building. I'm RPCD though, and I will never find another job like this.

 

[Up In Smoke]

I would have snagged a grievance, filled it out and handed it to the BA as he exited the building. I'm RPCD though, and I will never find another job like this.

I would tend to agree, but the company is the moving party and must produce their contract language for discipline before we can grieve to squash it. Procedures need to be followed. I've seen quite a few discipline issues dropped because the employer didn't follow language.

 

[Trucker Clock]

On 6/13 I went to work at my local hub, everything was normal as usual until I noticed my building manager by my unload trailer. He then began to question me and ask me if I was ok, trying to get a rise out of me. I told him that I was perfectly fine and I would appreciate if he leave me alone and work.

Telling your building manager to go away and let you work when he is asking you questions was not a very wise thing to do.

I missed that day of worked because my cat died. I tried to ask for time off but they declined it because it wasnt a person.

You said that you took the day off because your cat died and you had asked for time off, but it was denied.

My manager asked me what happened on 5/14 and why I didnt show up. I told him I dont know and then he proceeds to ask me for my UPS i.d.

Your manager asked you why you didn't show up on 5/14. You told him you didn't know. But wait, you said your cat died and you had asked for time off. So you knew but told your manager that you didn't know. Dishonesty is a fireable offence.

It did escalate quickly and I am confused why I am being "terminated" after only serving one, 1 day suspension in the past

How long ago was this suspension? The next step after a suspension is a termination in progressive discipline.

I messaged my steward 2 days ago and he says because I didnt file a grievance I'm pretty much done.

He is correct. You had 5 days to file a grievance. Any grievance now or any other action will be stopped under a Point of Order. Untimely.

I have been working with UPS for 5 years and still want my job.

You've been here 5 years and don't know your basic rights under the CBA, or that after you are terminated you need to file a grievance?

Are they doing me dirty by not going through the firing/grievance process

Here's where you stand a chance if you have a good BA. If you did not receive an official termination letter within 10 days of this incident on 6/13, your termination can be reversed. Call your BA. Better yet, meet with him/her in person.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

We've had a half dozen occasions that drivers had come to work, punch in, look at their dispatch and tell management that they were going home for a variety of reasons. Not a whole lot the company can do with that but cry.

Job abandonment?

 

[Johney]

Call up the air drivers. It's going to be a profitable day.

That’s funny. Our o/r’s would simply break up said cars and distribute it to other drivers making sure they knew why more work was being dumped on them.

 

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You've been here 5 years and don't know your basic rights under the CBA, or that after you are terminated you need to file a grievance?

Would that really surprise you? The union doesn't reach out to anyone, and if dues weren't taken from their checks, part timers wouldn't even know they were union.

 

[Bubblehead]

Would that really surprise you? The union doesn't reach out to anyone, and if dues weren't taken from their checks, part timers wouldn't even know they were union.

So these members (employees) are hired and sign a membership card, are orientated during their first week where the union attends (we give them a short speech and a small handbook), are initiated and charged monthly dues, have access to numerous social media resources, have the option of attending monthly membership meetings, and democratically elect an Executive Board, Business Agents and Stewards for all classifications and shifts in most cases....

....but somehow the "Union doesn't reach out to anyone"?