Fred Zs * visit, his amicable meeting with PK & JC 42s fury!

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
So your just taking from one pot and kicking over another? What a Teamster you are!
Reading comprehension is not an OG cheerleader strong point.

Nope.

Those whose employers have stopped paying into the pension plan will have their pensions frozen or cut.

Those whose employers are still paying into the plan take no cuts.

It sounds fair to me.

And before you say it, if my employer (ups) ever stopped paying in the WCT pension plan, those cuts would hit me.

And I still would stand behind this plan.

But hey, keep supporting H.

He will do nothing.
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
The orphans.... of Central States, would disagree.
The Orphans were sold out by H.

He let this snowball keep rolling down the hill, until it go so big, only Bankruptcy could save the plans.

The cuts should have happened a long time ago, and they would be smaller than they will have to take now.

But you keep talking about the Orphans.

Because your silence on H's incompetence is deafening.
 

10 point

Well-Known Member
#1 your the one complaining about him not winning a local election. Didn't know that was a requirement.
#2 how much do you think was embezzled (this is a fact easily researched because it did happen)
You drinking?
I never posted one thing about him not winning a local election. Try Hooked On Phonics.
The amount alleged was $735,000. You round up (or down) when it fits your agenda.

The issue is that Carey won ... Not because he allegedly embezzled money but because more members wanted him for GP over the lawyer riding on his dad's legacy with all his Illinois backing and other ties.

Fred Zs agenda? His agenda is to support the membership. Reading the posts on here from BAs and ex BAs with THEIR political agendas calling the kettle black without posting real evidence is grammar school childishness.

"I know Fred Z". " I've talked with Fred Z". Blah, blah, blah. That's their evidence.
Waste of time.
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
So your just taking from one pot and kicking over another? What a Teamster you are!
A great teamster.

As opposed to you, who will follow someone who will do nothing and let the bankruptcy courts take care of it.

So, what kind of teamster are you, besides a selfish sell out.
 

10 point

Well-Known Member
Enough of the social programs. I work too friend* hard to give my money away.
Maybe you can donate part of your paycheck to them
Don't ever forget...
Without them the "members hard work is nothing " and we're over "paid crybabies" as DG told his locals members in 2013.

The tail wags the dog. It's the Wizard of Oz syndrome.
 

Whatbrownwontdoforyou

Well-Known Member
I wish you would ask what his plan was then and what his plan is now.

We would all like to know it.

It seems to be DO NOTHING.

What do you think his plan is?
So you don't have a plan......you haven't heard Fred z talking about a plan and I know Tim s doesn't have a plan........what funny is the group that you feel will put forth the best plan for teamsters across the country can't even put together a plan to run a slate for ibt office
 

wide load

Starting wage is a waste of time.
A great teamster.

As opposed to you, who will follow someone who will do nothing and let the bankruptcy courts take care of it.

So, what kind of teamster are you, besides a selfish sell out.
A teamster with enough to know that it doesn't take the snap of the presidents finger to change unfunded liability.
 

Gimme Danger

Well-Known Member
For Lead...
 

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It wasn't 10point complaining about him not winning a local election, pant load. It was me responding to 5habits100 who said "And you(sic) leader couldn't win his own local. End of story sloppy." And it wasn't a complaint...it was an observation about how poorly prepared H was for the GP position. It was also a comment on the false H resume posted on BC and the 20 plus years of membership claimed in that resume.
This is FACT

James P. Hoffa grew up on picket lines and in union meetings. He is the only son of James R. Hoffa, former General President of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. On his 18th birthday, Hoffa received his own union card and was sworn in by his father. Prior to becoming Administrative Assistant to Michigan Joint Council 43, Hoffa was a labor lawyer in Detroit for 25 years.

TEAMSTER CAREER

1960s: Teamster laborer in Detroit and Alaska, loading and unloading freight from ships, driving trucks and buses, and operating heavy equipment.

1968-93: Teamster attorney representing members in workers compensation cases, Social Security, and personal legal matters; represented Teamster joint councils and local unions.

1993-98: Administrative Assistant to the President of Michigan Joint Council 43.

1999-Present: General President, International Brotherhood of Teamsters.


All accurate info. Also he has consistently PAID HIS DUES since the 60's. He worked unloading ships on the Great Lakes, and he worked driving trucks, heavy equipment and buses in Alaska during the construction of the BEMIS (Ballistic Missle Early Warning System) military base there you go slappy.
 
I just gave 1 possible solution.

I believe it is the best solution.

If your company stops paying into the pension fund, and pays a withdrawal fee, fine.

If your company stops paying into the pension fund, and does not pay a withdrawal fee, your pension should be cut dramatically.

But hey, let's do the H plan, and do nothing.

That always works out................NOT
You are very ignorant. You blame Hoffa but you contradict yourself.
 
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