from local 493 termination issue

[104Feeder]

I've worked with plenty of dumb ***** at UPS, but 99% of them were male.

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[Ant12]

Hi, my name is Tom, ive been a part time pre-loader for almost 7 years and today I was terminated by my boss because i allegedly called a female employee a "c*nt" Which for the record i did not. I can understand the company for hounding on me because I guess they consider me some type of target because whenever theirs a safety issue usually a jam or more specifically a scanner not stopping when asked to do so. (the main problem of all this) i am usually the one to say something and what always happens is i am the one who gets yelled at about "not keeping up with the work" when there not stopping is the issue.

Now to the problem at hand. The female employee which I have the issue with because on multiple accusations over the past 5 years atleast, I have almost been seriously hurt on the job because of her carelessness and ignorance to everyone around her. She has been told repeatedly by my steward and supervisor to listen when someone asks her to stop then continues the problem.

What happen this morning, Just a normal morning just shy 2 hours in the shift, a belt turns off i tell the scanner to hold up and surprise surprise, theres a jam because she kept goin. I get the jam and say to an employee next to me in the sort isle "This is friend*in stupid i wish she would just listen" and apparently she was there and said something to me along the lines of "thats a grievance" something like that. Then shortly after my supervisor called me into his office with not my actual steward but the next in line. (i think he had the day off) anyway so i go into his office and tells me " I was informed by an employee that you called her a c*nt. So I am terminating you for insubordination and I recommend you talk to the union hall." Then proceeded to escort me off the property. I went straight down to the union hall and waited till around 9 and no one was there. Still now at 12 i still cant get ahold of anyone. I really dont wanna loose my job over something i didnt even say. Just because they would wanna take her side over mine.

sorry this was soo long I just wanted to make sure everyone knows whats goin on thanks for any help.

I'm a loader and someone on my PD repeatedly used the n word infront of black employees. He thinks he's some type of rapper so he never stops....he got fired one day for it and he got his job back easily.

 

[251]

It is certainly a stretch to use insubordination as cause in this instance, however UPS will reason that all employees have been instructed to follow the zero tolerance harassment policy that appears to have been ignored.
251, for you to convolute that because another employee failed to stop a scan she therefore becomes a dumb c*nt is disturbing. Hopefully your new leadership in 251 doesn't share your views.

The "Dumb " was a quote from the OP. And dont worry. the only Local 251 officers that would call a member a "Dumb " are presently unemployed. S'all good my man.

 

[cosmo1]

I've worked with plenty of dumb c*nts at UPS, but 99% of them were male.

As is the OP. JMHO

 

[The Range]

You really need an answer. Would you ask that question if this was your wife, sister or mother in the workplace. This clown called any one of those that name in front of me, the UPS job would be the least of his worries.

I find it disturbing you are alluding to an unknown escalation of violence (?) based upon the use of mere words. Words are stupid, words are fun, words can put you on the run. However, what are words worth?

Not to mention you are making an assumption of guilt through the world wide web.

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[BigUnionGuy]

However, what are words worth?

Words.... can provide you with an opportunity to seek other employment.

Don't be stupid.



-Bug-

 

[Inthegame]

I find it disturbing you are alluding to an unknown escalation of violence (?) based upon the use of mere words. Words are stupid, words are fun, words can put you on the run. However, what are words worth?

Not to mention you are making an assumption of guilt through the world wide web.

I believe you are a c*nt.

Seems the words in this thread are beyond your comprehension level, but that happens when one is "in too deep"

 

[Stonefish]

Seems the words in this thread are beyond your comprehension level, but that happens when one is "in too deep"

If is was one of their wife's, daughter's, sister's or mother's it wouldn't be acceptable to them.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The C word is the most degrading term a man can use to describe a woman.

 

[The Range]

Seems the words in this thread are beyond your comprehension level, but that happens when one is "in too deep"

The irony in which a poster quoted me but didn't comprehend I was referencing your threats of escalation, if someone dare "say that" to your loved one, in which you rag on my comprehension level, which is spot on.

In this modern society it is not acceptable to resort to violence over mere words. A lab rat can decipher the meaning of your quasi-tough-guy post. Inthegame, I find you to be absolutely hilarious.

 

[Inthegame]

The irony in which a poster quoted me but didn't comprehend I was referencing your threats of escalation, if someone dare "say that" to your loved one, in which you rag on my comprehension level, which is spot on.

In this modern society it is not acceptable to resort to violence over mere words. A lab rat can decipher the meaning of your quasi-tough-guy post. Inthegame, I find you to be absolutely hilarious.

Glad I could provide you a moment of hilarity. Say hi to your friends, the lab rats.

 

[Anonymous 11]

The C word is the most degrading term a man can use to describe a woman.

Cute cuddly cunning. That's my wife.

 

[Anonymous 11]

I forgot capable certain courteous and curvy.

 

[chuchu]

The C word is the most degrading term a man can use to describe a woman.

You forgot to list the polling company that published those results.

I'd rather hear that from a real woman.

 

[The Range]

It rolls off the tongue. Actually, a lot of naughty words share that attribute.

 

[Re-Raise]

I forgot capable certain courteous and curvy.

Throw controlling in there too

 

[Anonymous 11]

Throw controlling in there too

Yea but isn't that for all our well being? I might be in the gutter without her.

 

[RorangeBishi]

so i have the meeting tomorrow with the union rep and the manager, wish me luck. From what i was informed because this woman doesn't want to drop the situation, Hopefully ill be able to keep my job but it might be in another local building.

 

[RorangeBishi]

so the meeting couldnt have gone any worse. As soon as the meeting started the manager asked me "Did you call her a c*nt" I said "no" then my union rep took me out of the meeting and told me "why didnt you say you did it like we agreed?" I told him I couldn't because I know in my heart I didn't do it. So we went back into the office, I proceeded to then apologize to the manger for "lieing" and told him I said it. Then the manager tells me "Well now I feel that your dishonest person because first you tell me you didnt then you say you did?" This was about when the meeting wrapped up and my union Rep told me we were probably gonna have another meeting and passably court of some kind.

 

[RorangeBishi]

The union rep told me that he supposedly talked to everyone in my work area and said that they all said that I have said this to her. Which is BullS*it because I talked to 4 people and they told me he never talked to them and they all told me the same story. That is female didnt actually hear anything I said she had to ask the person next to her what i said. The person next to her didnt really hear good what I actually said more of what "I think he said."