GROUND IS TAKING OVER EXPRESS

bacha29

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Lolol. Unions played a massive role in Obama being elected. Then the Teamsters turned around asked Obama for help getting FedEx out from the RLA and so UPS and FedEx could be on a level playing field and he spit in their face and did nothing.

Anyone that think that Demoncrats are still the working man and women’s party, I got news for you. You’re clueless. Demoncrats are the party of I want to sit home all day with my feet up and do nothing, while I stick my hand out and you give me a bunch of free sheet. And the party of illegal immigrants. Bernie, Biden, and Warren couldn’t care less about working people.
Think you've got it bad now? Just wait till the Repugs repeal the NLRA and every state becomes a so called "right to work state" . So long Teamsters and that contract that has kept you "men in brown" in a protected market shielded from open labor market forces.

That contract and the federal legislation backing it is in fact the only thing standing between you and UPS from becoming Amazon Delivery and Fedex Ground.
 

Working4the1%

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Hate to shatter your dreams, kiddo. But Bernie, Biden and Warren couldn’t give two sheets about you. You could be living in a gutter for all they care. All three will just take more money that you don’t have and you will be even broker. And anyone that thinks that Trump cares about the working class is also living in fantasyland. But at least under Trump the economy was flourishing before Coronavirus.
Working... you mean 2 jobs working??
 

dmac1

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What do you project to be the weight limit a drone can deliver?
Can a driverless vehicle navigate an unmarked road?

Simpleton.
Only an idiot would think that a driverless vehicle is reading signs, or that there are so many unmarked roads that driverless vehicles won't be used, or that he can make enough money by only delivering heavy packages after buying a fleet of vehicles to deliver packages that consist mostly of packages light enough to be delivered by dron.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Only an idiot would think that a driverless vehicle is reading signs, or that there are so many unmarked roads that driverless vehicles won't be used, or that he can make enough money by only delivering heavy packages after buying a fleet of vehicles to deliver packages that consist mostly of packages light enough to be delivered by dron.
And a true idiot believes that an unmarked road is one without a sign.

And if I were the service provider delivering those overweight packages to unmarked locations, it would be at a rate I set.

I believe 'independent' has a meaning.
 

dmac1

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Working... you mean 2 jobs working??


The economy grew faster under obama, unemployment rate went down faster, Inflation was lower, and the deficit was going down. Now, any minor random thing could tank our economy like the coronavirus. An economic 'boom' built on borrowed money will always crash when something happen. It could have been an outbreak of war with Iran, or simply China deciding to buy elsewhere.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
The economy grew faster under obama, unemployment rate went down faster, Inflation was lower, and the deficit was going down. Now, any minor random thing could tank our economy like the coronavirus. An economic 'boom' built on borrowed money will always crash when something happen. It could have been an outbreak of war with Iran, or simply China deciding to buy elsewhere.
Or Obama could have inherited an economy without the Wall Street bailout signed by President Bush.

Then we would have seen what he was really capable of.
 

vantexan

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The economy grew faster under obama, unemployment rate went down faster, Inflation was lower, and the deficit was going down. Now, any minor random thing could tank our economy like the coronavirus. An economic 'boom' built on borrowed money will always crash when something happen. It could have been an outbreak of war with Iran, or simply China deciding to buy elsewhere.
How much was gas under Obama? How many on foodstamps? Unemployment rate was how much higher when he left office? Obama said those jobs weren't coming back. And he certainly didn't try to do anything that would make business thrive. Said business owners didn't build their companies, someone else did. And China buying elsewhere? It was the other way around with a $550 Billion trade deficit. China is very dependent on selling to us and Trump is trying to get some of that money flowing back our way.
 

ManInBrown

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Think you've got it bad now? Just wait till the Repugs repeal the NLRA and every state becomes a so called "right to work state" . So long Teamsters and that contract that has kept you "men in brown" in a protected market shielded from open labor market forces.

That contract and the federal legislation backing it is in fact the only thing standing between you and UPS from becoming Amazon Delivery and Fedex Ground.
Lolol. Somebody struck a nerve. Not my fault Fred S m I t h is scum and Jim Casey wasn’t scum. Not my fault FredEx drivers are completely screwed over at every turn. But you go ahead and keep praying for UPS to be turned into an Amazon pay job. Good luck with that one. While you keep praying I’ll keep cashing my $2000+ a week checks. Lol
 

bacha29

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Lolol. Somebody struck a nerve. Not my fault Fred S m I t h is scum and Jim Casey wasn’t scum. Not my fault FredEx drivers are completely screwed over at every turn. But you go ahead and keep praying for UPS to be turned into an Amazon pay job. Good luck with that one. While you keep praying I’ll keep cashing my $2000+ a week checks. Lol
And come January and the Repugs have an overwhelming majority in both Houses a Republican president and the federal courts stacked to the max with hard line conservative judges......just exactly what will you have at your disposal to stop a complete disembowelment of the legislation that keeps you in your sheltered little union shop world?
 

vantexan

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In the eyes of everyone but you, the existing law remained in place after an attempt to alter it failed.
It wasn't voted on until the Republicans won back the House. The Democrats tabled it after receiving fat donations. So @MrFedEx can rail against Republicans all day but it was his Democrats that betrayed Express employees. And Republicans like you who try to alter the reality that our party doesn't give a damn about workers either. It takes a populist to come and try to make a difference. Which draws the scoffers out in force.
 

Working4the1%

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It wasn't voted on until the Republicans won back the House. The Democrats tabled it after receiving fat donations. So @MrFedEx can rail against Republicans all day but it was his Democrats that betrayed Express employees. And Republicans like you who try to alter the reality that our party doesn't give a damn about workers either. It takes a populist to come and try to make a difference. Which draws the scoffers out in force.
JOEMENTUM !!!!!Chooo Chooooo
 

ManInBrown

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And come January and the Repugs have an overwhelming majority in both Houses a Republican president and the federal courts stacked to the max with hard line conservative judges......just exactly what will you have at your disposal to stop a complete disembowelment of the legislation that keeps you in your sheltered little union shop world?
Keep praying. That’s your only hope. Lolol. I’ll keep making 110K a year to do the same job you do for peanuts. Have fun.
 

vantexan

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Wow , 110 a year. That’s not that great in 2020.
I was a rehire at Express in 1998. The most I ever made after being rehired was $48k and I worked 6 days a week most of the year for that. And I never made more than $47k as a topped out employee before I quit after 11 years in 1997. Was back almost 15 years when I quit in 2013. Rehired in 2014, took the early pension at 55 start of 2017. With the new pay plan if I had stayed I would be almost 64 before topping out. IF they kept their word and they already broke their word last year. So from where I'm sitting $110k a year is great money.
 
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