Ground taking over

[MrFedEx]

Probably because they aren’t actually merging the companies. There’s not much benefit to do so. Why would they take the time and money to fold all of Ground management, employees and assets into Express? It’s cheaper to keep the current companies intact and sub out the work to each by what makes sense financially. It took them 10 years to merge TNT into Express, I don’t think they have the appetite to do that again.

They are merging operations, which is different than actually merging the companies, which would open a new can of worms. You keep talking about "subbing out" work to Ground like it's all just fine and dandy to do so with no consequences, especially on labor issues. If it were an entirely separate Third party like UPS or USPS there isn't any issue. But Ground is another FedEx opco, and it isn't a separate entity from FDX, the systems integrator that oversees all the opcos.

Given your reasoning, I guess UPS can now create UPS Tan, and duplicate the FedEx Ground model, right? Then UPS Brown and Air can bleed-off however much air and ground they want to the new Tan, which will be "independent" contractors with their own employees. The trucks will look the same, and, in fact, Tan can deliver NDA, UPS traditional Brown ground and whatever the UPS Corporation decides to send their way.

I'm guessing you don't see a problem.

 

[It will be fine]

The message Wall Street gave to the company is clear and concise. Reduce both final mile and corporate overhead costs with the objective being improved margins and the ability to sustain those margins throughout the upcoming recession.

You're obviously quite excited to get to haul air box given that by your own admission a big mileage day for your trucks is 30 miles. Even despite that uncommon advantage there is no guarantee that you'll make money hauling air box. However for the guy out in rural America whose daily mileage can be upwards of 10 times what yours is he will likely have to leave assets at the terminal to wait for the air box to finally arrive then have a very small window to haul a very small load over a very long distance.

Contractors are already selling trucks and downsizing just to raise cash and cut capacity. It's quite obvious that they don't see air box as a solution to their problems but will only serve to compound and accelerate a deteriorating economic situation.

Rest assured the practice of taking an air box and wash it through the Express corporate machine and then pass it off to Ground who will then wash it again through the Ground corporate machine will not achieve that stated goal of cutting very big numbers out of the operating cost side of the balance sheet.

I believe that Raj and Fat Freddy greatly dislike having to make this move given the obvious risks and dangers involved especially given that it doesn't take an MBA to see that Ground completely lacks the uniform design structure needed to handle air box but I don't think they have much of a choice.

 

[AB831]

This is a lot like Tucker Carlson's coverage of January 6th and the general operations of a misinformation network. We already have Raj admitting the opcos are no longer separate, we have employees telling us how operations have changed, and a clear combination of operations. Yet, according to the company and its various mouthpieces, nothing has changed in terms of basic operations. Like Carlson and FOX, all one needs to do is a bit of research to see that they are LYING. Like the internal Dominion texts and emails at FOX, FedEx sycophants and apologists don't want to "admit" FedEx has fundamentally changed its operation(s). An orgy of alternative facts.

It simply boggles the mind. "J6 didn't happen and neither did the combination of the opcos" Just be a good little sheep and believe what we (FedEx) say despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Amazing. And Denial59 will be right back in a few minutes to tell us again to ignore the facts.

It's no wonder he's such a Trump lover. He likes when people tell him 2+2=5. Makes him feel special to be keyed in on something no one else knows- a hallmark of people with deep insecurity issues.

 

[yadig]

It's no wonder he's such a Trump lover. He likes when people tell him 2+2=5. Makes him feel special to be keyed in on something no one else knows- a hallmark of people with deep insecurity issues.

You have room to talk. TDS!

 

[MrFedEx]

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How do you sub a package to yourself and then pretend you’re a Third Party??

 

[AB831]

You have room to talk. TDS!

Thank you for proving my point. When you’re in a cult, do you know you’re in a cult?

 

[yadig]

Thank you for proving my point. When you’re in a cult, do you know you’re in a cult?

You answer first

 

[AB831]

You answer first

How would I know?

 

[fedx]

You answer first

There are a lot of people in cults here in the US. They are like pagan religions too. You have the climate change cult. Somehow the MSM and government has managed to convince about 50% of our country that the climate is not like it was when we were kids. Anyone with half a brain can see it is still the same. It's also the same as when your dad was a kid and when his dad was a kid. Yet, these conspiracy theorists have convinced most people that it's not the same. And now that cult uses all encompassing terms like "climate change" so they're never wrong. If it's too sunny, it's climate change. If it's too cloudy, it's climate change. If it's raining, it's climate change, etc., etc.

Then there is the "diversity and inclusion" cult. That has replaced merit as the new standard to hire people. We no longer hire someone because they are the most qualified, now we must hire all in the name of diversity and inclusion.

And finally there is the LGBTQ+ cult. You must submit to this cult by wearing pride shirts to professional hockey games, even if you're not gay. It keeps sliding more and more degenerate too. First if was tolerate gays, then it was accept gays. After that was accomplished it was embrace gays. Finally let gays marry. Now that we're past that point, it became tolerate transsexuals. Then it was accept, then embrace. Now we are propagandized that there are no longer 2 genders and men can get pregnant. And it's now evolved to men dressing up like women and doing strip shows in front of toddlers. If you took your toddler to watch a real woman strip in front of them, you'd get arrested for child abuse, but since it's LGBTQ, it's to be celebrated and worshiped. Their "church" is the local bar, library, or kindergarten class, and their patron saints are men dressed up like women. Truly degenerate.

How far will these pseudo religious cults keep forcing their will upon you? As far as you will let them.

 

[AB831]

There are a lot of people in cults here in the US. They are like pagan religions too. You have the climate change cult. Somehow the MSM and government has managed to convince about 50% of our country that the climate is not like it was when we were kids. Anyone with half a brain can see it is still the same. It's also the same as when your dad was a kid and when his dad was a kid. Yet, these conspiracy theorists have convinced most people that it's not the same. And now that cult uses all encompassing terms like "climate change" so they're never wrong. If it's too sunny, it's climate change. If it's too cloudy, it's climate change. If it's raining, it's climate change, etc., etc.

Then there is the "diversity and inclusion" cult. That has replaced merit as the new standard to hire people. We no longer hire someone because they are the most qualified, now we must hire all in the name of diversity and inclusion.

And finally there is the LGBTQ+ cult. You must submit to this cult by wearing pride shirts to professional hockey games, even if you're not gay. It keeps sliding more and more degenerate too. First if was tolerate gays, then it was accept gays. After that was accomplished it was embrace gays. Finally let gays marry. Now that we're past that point, it became tolerate transsexuals. Then it was accept, then embrace. Now we are propagandized that there are no longer 2 genders and men can get pregnant. And it's now evolved to men dressing up like women and doing strip shows in front of toddlers. If you took your toddler to watch a real woman strip in front of them, you'd get arrested for child abuse, but since it's LGBTQ, it's to be celebrated and worshiped. Their "church" is the local bar, library, or kindergarten class, and their patron saints are men dressed up like women. Truly degenerate.

How far will these pseudo religious cults keep forcing their will upon you? As far as you will let them.

Dude, everything you said was completely false information. Turn off Fox News and actually go to a library and check a few books out and you’ll realize just how thoroughly you’re being lied to. But why open up your mind when you can get your outrage fix watching lies and conspiracy theories on right wing cable news?

 

[yadig]

How would I know?

You seem to know everything

 

[yadig]

Dude, everything you said was completely false information. Turn off Fox News and actually go to a library and check a few books out and you’ll realize just how thoroughly you’re being lied to. But why open up your mind when you can get your outrage fix watching lies and conspiracy theories on right wing cable news?

What are you watching? Reading?

 

[AB831]

What are you watching? Reading?

Currently reading? Agatha Christie. Currently watching? Spider-Man No Way Home. The difference between me and you is that I know I’m consuming fiction/entertainment.

 

[bbsam]

They are combining the two OPCOs not contracting out. Ttku.....

At this point, it’s all semantics. FedEx has played the long game on this and waited for the correct political climate.

Anyone who thinks losing RLA status will happen in the near future, why do you think so? As IWBF has pointed out, Express has used third party vendors for decades. Ground is incorporated as a separate entity. Business between sister companies is not illegal. FedEx has built all the evidence it needs through business relationships over the years to support this argument.

Furthermore, I suspect that if FedEx were to lose a legal challenge, they wouldn’t really care. Experience with Freight (and watching Amazon) has shown them that they can crush any organizing attempt.

Anyone see Washington riding to worker’s rescue?

 

[bacha29]

At this point, it’s all semantics. FedEx has played the long game on this and waited for the correct political climate.

Anyone who thinks losing RLA status will happen in the near future, why do you think so? As IWBF has pointed out, Express has used third party vendors for decades. Ground is incorporated as a separate entity. Business between sister companies is not illegal. FedEx has built all the evidence it needs through business relationships over the years to support this argument.

Furthermore, I suspect that if FedEx were to lose a legal challenge, they wouldn’t really care. Experience with Freight (and watching Amazon) has shown them that they can crush any organizing attempt.

Anyone see Washington riding to worker’s rescue?

Not the current House of Representatives. They're too busy getting ready to welcome a return visit from the group of "tourists" who were there on 1-6.
That's an important point you've made bbsam. The decision to collapse down as much of the corporate structure as they believe will be needed was made public just a few weeks after the GOP reclaimed the House. This gives them cover to continue to do whatever they damn well please without much fear that in doing so it would open up a channel for Congress and federal regulators to challenge what they've set out to do.

But in the end it will still come down to what happens at the terminal level and the ability of contractors to find people willing to take on all the additional pressure and responsibility moving air box requires (a premium service by the way) AND do it for burger flipping wages. A premium service reliably provided by low wages workers? What a game changer.

Will it be Freddy The Grifter's biggest score yet or will he be sowing the seeds of his own downfall? We can only wait and see.

 

[bbsam]

The decision to collapse down as much of the corporate structure as they believe will be needed was made public just a few weeks after the GOP reclaimed the House. This gives them cover to continue to do whatever they damn well please without much fear that in doing so it would open up a channel for Congress and federal regulators to challenge what they've set out to do.

That’s just the latest. Nothing in the last 15 years should give them any concern whatsoever. In fact, they should be highly confident that they’ll get whatever they want.

 

[yadig]

Currently reading? Agatha Christie. Currently watching? Spider-Man No Way Home. The difference between me and you is that I know I’m consuming fiction/entertainment.

Sounds like entertainment to me. We were talking about news sources . We’re do you get your news sources? You’re starting to sound like a liberal dano.

 

[zeev]

Plan to move to Ground is on massive training of RTD s rumor is that Express will also run Ground trailers, take all the couriers who want it, when Ground is staffed enough in a location start moving packages to Ground than close the Express stations. Th

 

[AB831]

Sounds like entertainment to me. We were talking about news sources . We’re do you get your news sources? You’re starting to sound like a liberal dano.

From Heather Cox Richardson’s nightly “Letter to America” or a local channel. I apologize if I’m being condescending. I genuinely feel sad for people who gorge themselves on right wing news, many of whom are dearly loved family and friends. If you step away from it, you’ll find no one else in the real world is worried about the “crises” they talk about every night because 90% of them aren’t real.

 

[fedx]

Dude, everything you said was completely false information. Turn off Fox News and actually go to a library and check a few books out and you’ll realize just how thoroughly you’re being lied to. But why open up your mind when you can get your outrage fix watching lies and conspiracy theories on right wing cable news?

Ummm, everything I said is true. So apparently you fell for the gas lighting that the climate is totally different than when you were a kid. Mission accomplished for you. And the diversity and inclusion is a lie? Every company is pushing that. FedEx has a big sign where I'm at that even says "diversity and inclusion" but I guess I'm imagining that. And the LGBTQ stuff is a lie? All you have to do is look at the various "right wing" news stories that talks about this city and that city having drag queen stripper shows. You think it's all false because you watch to the uni-media where all that stuff is censored off their broadcasts. But I'll give you a chance to prove me wrong. You said all three of my points were false and lies, so you go ahead an explain to me how each point is a lie as in not happening, not real, totally made up. Please explain.