Here Comes the Electric Fail

[wilberforce15]

Million-mile batteries already exist and are in vehicles right now, where you can drive your entire lifetime worth of miles, over decades, and need a new car body before you need a new battery.

So much ignorance here.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Subcontract to the Amish. Problem solved. You're welcome.

 

[wilberforce15]

At this point, any remaining ignorance is intentional on your part.

I'll leave this for future times, where whenever the desire hits me, I'll make a fool of the dinosaurs again. Good day, sirs.

 

[bacha29]

Eventually, non-autonomous cars might be banned for safety reasons.

And gas cars might stop being produced in a decade or two, but their use won't be banned for many decades. It will just get harder and more expensive to service them or fuel them. Even if selling ICE vehicles were banned today, new ones would still be working in 20 years.

It will be like horses. They used to be everyone's transportation. Now, they only exist for horse enthusiasts and rich people to play with.

Internal combustion cars will be like that. Few will use them daily. They'll be a fun hobby for people with the money.

That's a good point. Parts for ICE's will become increasingly hard to find as parts manufactured for more ICE models are discontinued.
In fact if the GM bailout plan had failed 4 or 5 after market parts manufacturers were already contracted as a backup plan to manufacture a limited number of parts for a limited number of GM vehicle models for 5 years. That's right 5 years and then they're done.

The easy way to get rid of unpopular and obsolete vehicles is to simply quit making parts for them.

 

[Fred's Myth]

You can't even talk to these electric car dorks, it's like they're in a cult. Totally obsessed.

@wilberforce15 is a Tesladust junkie. Notice he hasn’t committed to having purchased one already. He’s just impressed by his own ‘electric’ erection!

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

That's a good point. Parts for ICE's will become increasingly hard to find as parts manufactured for more ICE models are discontinued.
In fact if the GM bailout plan had failed 4 or 5 after market parts manufacturers were already contracted as a backup plan to manufacture a limited number of parts for a limited number of GM vehicle models for 5 years. That's right 5 years and then they're done.

The easy way to get rid of unpopular and obsolete vehicles is to simply quit making parts for them.

Wow, really clear you don't know anything about cars. New parts are still being made for plenty of cars models that aren't produced anymore. If there's a need the market will fill it. Not to mention junk yards, easy way to save a ton of money.

 

[Fred's Myth]

Wow, really clear you don't know anything about cars. New parts are still being made for plenty of cars models that aren't produced anymore. If there's a need the market will fill it. Not to mention junk yards, easy way to save a ton of money.

Cuba is the fact that disproves @bacha29’s theory.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

That's a good point. Parts for ICE's will become increasingly hard to find as parts manufactured for more ICE models are discontinued.
In fact if the GM bailout plan had failed 4 or 5 after market parts manufacturers were already contracted as a backup plan to manufacture a limited number of parts for a limited number of GM vehicle models for 5 years. That's right 5 years and then they're done.

The easy way to get rid of unpopular and obsolete vehicles is to simply quit making parts for them.

It's about how far and how forceful the Climate Change Cult is willing to go in order to take control of the industry. We see today how it continues to attempt to bring pressure onto Congress to legislate it's environmental morality.

 

[Mutineer]

It's about how far and how forceful the Climate Change Cult is willing to go in order to take control of the industry. We see today how it continues to attempt to bring pressure onto Congress to legislate it's environmental morality.

Once it's understood that the Left doesn't like independent, mobile people it's fairly transparent where they're going with their EV propaganda.

Under the guise of "save the planet", the cost of fossil fuels will be purposely, artificially inflated. Next it will be all about "safety", and how autonomous vehicles eliminate human error and will save lives.

In the meantime, a connection will be twisted and convoluted to fit a narrative that independently driven ICE vehicles and "racism" are intertwined.

But the proles have nothing to fear. Because driverless EV's will save lives, save the planet, and fight racism!

Next will be "unforeseeable" electricity shortages and navigation satellite failures. Unless you're rich, you aren't going anywhere. And the blame for that boondoggle?

Racism.

 

[Fred's Myth]

At this point, any remaining ignorance is intentional on your part.

I'll leave this for future times, where whenever the desire hits me, I'll make a fool of the dinosaurs again. Good day, sirs.

Manufacturing the Peak-Lithium auto consumes even more oil than manufacturing the Peak-Oil vehicle.

How much oil is needed to produce a Tesla vehicle?

Answer (1 of 10): To start - 8 gallons of oil for each 18′ tire. Comparable tires wear 35% faster on a Tesla than on a conventional car. This is due to the weight and torque over the tires in a Tesla. So you will be changing tires more often regardless of brand. The average EV has 1,000 plastic/...

www.quora.com

 

[MAKAVELI]

Manufacturing the Peak-Lithium auto consumes even more oil than manufacturing the Peak-Oil vehicle.

How much oil is needed to produce a Tesla vehicle?

Answer (1 of 10): To start - 8 gallons of oil for each 18′ tire. Comparable tires wear 35% faster on a Tesla than on a conventional car. This is due to the weight and torque over the tires in a Tesla. So you will be changing tires more often regardless of brand. The average EV has 1,000 plastic/...

www.quora.com

Quora. Lol

 

[wilberforce15]

Manufacturing the Peak-Lithium auto consumes even more oil than manufacturing the Peak-Oil vehicle.

How much oil is needed to produce a Tesla vehicle?

Answer (1 of 10): To start - 8 gallons of oil for each 18′ tire. Comparable tires wear 35% faster on a Tesla than on a conventional car. This is due to the weight and torque over the tires in a Tesla. So you will be changing tires more often regardless of brand. The average EV has 1,000 plastic/...

www.quora.com

I don't care about the environment. I don't care about carbon.

I like performance and price and reliability.

Electric Motors destroy internal combustion on all those.

They're simply better at everything.

 

[Fred's Myth]

I don't care about the environment. I don't care about carbon.

I like performance and price and reliability.

Electric Motors destroy internal combustion on all those.

They're simply better at everything.

I don’t care.

Dismissed.

 

[wilberforce15]

I don’t care.

Dismissed.

Not caring is the best argument you've had yet.

All the other ones are just showing off ignorance.

 

[bacha29]

Wow, really clear you don't know anything about cars. New parts are still being made for plenty of cars models that aren't produced anymore. If there's a need the market will fill it. Not to mention junk yards, easy way to save a ton of money.

Eventually a car will cost more to fix it up than it is to keep it around Not to mention passing state inspections and state emissions testing And aftermarket car parts manufacturers are not going to set up their dies and presses just to do a short run of parts for a model that's quickly disappearing.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Eventually a car will cost more to fix it up than it is to keep it around Not to mention passing state inspections and state emissions testing And aftermarket car parts manufacturers are not going to set up their dies and presses just to do a short run of parts for a model that's quickly disappearing.

Emissions testing?
State inspections?
What's that like?
Nevermind, don't care.

 

[wilberforce15]

The ice guys would do much better to say "I like engine noise" and leave it at that.

I totally respect the thrill of rolling black coal smoke as the ground shakes with the rumble. The smell of gas at the drag strip is great.

Just recognize that in all measurable respects, it's inferior for almost all automotive applications.

 

[bacha29]

Emissions testing?
State inspections?
What's that like?
Nevermind, don't care.

A total of 7 states require no vehicle safety and or emissions testing. The other 43 require safety inspections and or emissions testing.

 

[Operational needs]

A total of 7 states require no vehicle safety and or emissions testing. The other 43 require safety inspections and or emissions testing.

But after a certain age, some states no longer require emissions.

 

[oldngray]

But after a certain age, some states no longer require emissions.

And some states only require testing in a few city areas