smells like godzilla
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I've seen the flyer already. Bunch of BS from people who quit on the members over politics. And who left the local a mess.
HOFFA , HALL AND OBRIEN campaign announcement
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So then I guess it won't matter to you if I post it on Tuesday. Your suggesting that the flyer is a lie?
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Last time you ask someone's permission to post something, you got them suspended from the Teamsters for threatening rank and file Teamsters.
Haven't you learned your lesson by now?
I feel that you are in your own little world.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Aren't we all?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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anHOURover
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WE NEED A REAL LEADER BACK!! Someone for the members!! NOT THE COMPANY!!
You want Carey back?
Lead Belly
BANNED
No thanks.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
"Ron Carey looked like a tired stereotype: the disgraced labor boss on the witness stand, with dark bags beneath his eyes, denying accusations of wrongdoing in a made-in-Queens accent."
"Why didn't you monitor the financial practices of your campaign? Why did you make misstatements to investigators about the flow of money between various Teamsters funds? Why didn't you demand more information about the funny-money business at the union once it became public? Why did you attend a retirement party for a Teamster accused of swindling a local?"
"If you really didn't know, how can you claim to be competent enough to manage the nation's largest union?"
http://www.thenation.com/article/prosecution-and-persecution-ron-carey
Real Leaders, don't get caught with their hand in the cookie jar....
And then, get booted out of the Union.
-Bug-
10 point
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Was he found guilty of "misstatements"?
Why didn't they ask him "Did you quit beating your wife?"; "Did you quit running naked through your neighborhood?", etc, etc too?
That way we'd know he "was guilty" of all those things too.
Maybe Ron Carey, being just a man, who came up through the ranks as a blue collar worker, son of a union truck driver, still commands respect from our ranks because he gave us respect and no mudslinging on this forum will ever erase the pride he instilled in us common workers. NONE.
With any flaws he may have had (since we're all perfect on here except him) I can say that he was not afraid to stare down the company and address our (the members) issues.
I respect your opinion but I don't agree with the strategy used on here that demeans without facts.
Why didn't they ask him "Did you quit beating your wife?"; "Did you quit running naked through your neighborhood?", etc, etc too?
That way we'd know he "was guilty" of all those things too.
Maybe Ron Carey, being just a man, who came up through the ranks as a blue collar worker, son of a union truck driver, still commands respect from our ranks because he gave us respect and no mudslinging on this forum will ever erase the pride he instilled in us common workers. NONE.
With any flaws he may have had (since we're all perfect on here except him) I can say that he was not afraid to stare down the company and address our (the members) issues.
I respect your opinion but I don't agree with the strategy used on here that demeans without facts.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
No
They
Continue on and on, without issue
Whoa BUG, they want transparency but only against their cause or opposition. Not true transparency. You went too transparent on them.
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
So are we pretty sure that Ron Carey will not be running in the 2016 IBT General Election then?
10 point
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If we don't vote we don't have a right to gripe imo.
Don't let the facts confuse the issue.
Transparency is good.
Translucent is more the norm.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
10 point
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His memory is the problem. For some.
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Your link doesn't work.
Try it yourself.
And real leaders don't get caught on video threatening rank and file Teamsters.
But that's not stopping Hoffa from putting that guy on the ticket.
10 point
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Is that a porn site?Um..
You might want to google "issues with downloading porn".
-Bug-
Probably has something to do with part timers getting screwed in the last CBA but I didn't know it was rated XXX.
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