HOFFA , HALL AND OBRIEN campaign announcement

[10 point]

What BA in your Local, said that ?



-Bug-

It was in one of my friend's local and was reported by a steward. More than one person was present to hear it.

 

[10 point]

Is it really hard to discuss arguments and leave the TDU name calling out? Really?
That's all many of the no voters heard the whole time the struggle was going on.
I never even heard of who and what TDU was until this CBA.
Your relationship (or lack thereof) with your local becomes evident in times like this.

 

[10 point]

I'll give you the answer....
If he was sent home you will be hit with a 20% bill when we were covered 100% previously!! FACTS!!
Nobody is happy with this plan who had the company plan!! Yes it's good insurance... The point is we LOST a lot !! WE GOT
NOTHING IN RETURN OTHER THAN LINIng THE POCKETS OF THE international with a Huge cash flow which will weaken the rank and file!!
You who never had the company plan can't speak on this!! YOU HAVE NO CLUE!!
Oh and make sure you make it to work or you will be dropped by the one punch rule!!

Oh yeah. I forgot the one punch/WK rule.
That was a nice surprise for some.
Realistically, I , have to go on and be thankful for a decent medical plan, now knowing that for years others in our state had a lot worse.
I don't want to be a crybaby. Life goes on.
Let's not forget all this in 2016 though and get the part timers motivated to better themselves.

 

[anHOURover]

What BA in your Local, said that ?



-Bug-

BUG stop acting like NONE OF THIS OCCURRED!!
Local leaders were told by Hoffa and Hall to sell the SLOP!! They said and a lot worse!!

 

[BigUnionGuy]

It was in one of my friend's local and was reported by a steward. More than one person was present to hear it.

"I thought.... I heard... or somebody told me"

Oh yeah. I forgot the one punch/WK rule.
That was a nice surprise for some.

Yeah, it probably was a surprise.

For UPS people (I can't even call them Union members)


Having to show up for work.... once a week.... is a chore.



-Bug-

 

[Lead Belly]

For what reason was the C6 plan offered as a replacement for our far superior plan?

When a BA tells the members that if they didn't vote to ratify this CBA they were just "overpaid crybabies".
I would say that constitutes a battle right out the gate.
Why no change in art 17 except the IBT negotiators were offering it to us with the addition of "service, methods and safety" (in 17I of all things!); tried to pass it adding the MMI language in the Central Region and there were other discouraging changes.
We're not ignorant to collective bargaining give and take but the surepost language is a cluster from day one and that pathetic info is straight from one of the IBT guys who was in the surepost negotiations.

There's good reason for stewards to be aggravated and it's not just the vote no folks.

Who said we were overpaid cry babies?

 

[wide load]

Who said we were overpaid cry babies?

I've only heard that from people working at other companies.

 

[10 point]

"I thought.... I heard... or somebody told me"



Yeah, it probably was a surprise.

For UPS people (I can't even call them Union members)


Having to show up for work.... once a week.... is a chore.



-Bug-

There you go. Demeaning ups workers. Come on bug. We're not all the same just like BAs aren't all the same.

Who said we were overpaid cry babies?

Can't post it here. Crazy isn't the same as stupid.

I have people that I call friends (like family) who wouldn't lie about that. They were pretty angry about it.

 

[Lead Belly]

There you go. Demeaning ups workers. Come on bug. We're not all the same just like BAs aren't all the same.

Can't post it here. Crazy isn't the same as stupid.

I have people that I call friends (like family) who wouldn't lie about that. They were pretty angry about it.

But why wouldn't that person stand up at the monthly meeting and talk about it? Did they at least bring it up at a monthly meeting ?

 

[10 point]

But why wouldn't that person stand up at the monthly meeting and talk about it? Did they at least bring it up at a monthly meeting ?

I didn't ask them. They do go to the meetings.

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

If you want to say the was a good contract for having no legal strike rights, I hope you continue to. Does anybody remember a a strike authorization vote, does anybody remember a last, best and final offer?

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[Ron Carey lives on]

The fact that supplements were pushed through, show the IBT ' s leverage None! You don't negotiate with Ups without telling them my people are ready to strike period

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[10 point]

I've only heard that from people working at other companies.

Those folks that have no idea what our jobs (minus feeder runs) entail?
That's usually the case.

Yet our struggle (and strike) raises the bar for the companies similar to ours. Other teamsters got blessed out of our willingness to stand up against abuses...every day.

The question (on every ERI I've taken) never changes:
"If you were offered a job with similar wages and benefits would you take it?".
If this was utopia and the stress level of this job wasn't elevated to the level it is then why would the company worry about us "overpaid crybabies" dumping this job for a similar one with less stress?

Let's not downplay the truth that teamsters at ups have more stress than our counterparts and yet we endure, putting our faith in leadership that doesn't always respect what we do every day or that our workers comp frequency is multiplied times more than all other job frequencies in the US.

I believe every BA should go back to their old job or a job at UPS for a year every five years. That'll get some people's mind right.

 

[wide load]

I can only partially agree. Doing multiple jobs in my career I can tell you that package is more physical than what I do now. However, I feel that stress is individual. Working hard for something you don't care about is stressful. Working hard for something we love is called passion. It's 100% state of mind.

 

[10 point]

I can only partially agree. Doing multiple jobs in my career I can tell you that package is more physical than what I do now. However, I feel that stress is individual. Working hard for something you don't care about is stressful. Working hard for something we love is called passion. It's 100% state of mind.

You're talking from inside the system.
Your previous post was about those outside our company who think we have it made but don't have a clue.

Having a positive attitude helps throughout life but doesn't cure every problem where we work.
You must be joking about loving what we do as a cure all.
The reward at the end of this job is only 48% funded and sinking every day.
It's about survival now.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

There you go. Demeaning ups workers. Come on bug.

It is.... what it is.

The UPS members in your Local, are no different than mine.

If the company "barks".... most (not all) stick their tail between their legs.


Thank God, for some of us. (to stand up for others)

We're not all the same just like BAs aren't all the same.

Can't argue that.

But.... the members elect them.


-Bug-

 

[anHOURover]

It is.... what it is.

The UPS members in your Local, are no different than mine.

If the company "barks".... most (not all) stick their tail between their legs.


Thank God, for some of us. (to stand up for others)




Can't argue that.

But.... the members elect them.


-Bug-

BUG u sound like a HOFFICER....

 

[10 point]

It is.... what it is.

The UPS members in your Local, are no different than mine.

If the company "barks".... most (not all) stick their tail between their legs.


Thank God, for some of us. (to stand up for others)




Can't argue that.

But.... the members elect them.


-Bug-

You've hit it on the head there. Absolutely right.
And, you've probably seen it longer than I have.

"Some" BAs remain in their positions by default. That's all I'm going to say.

 

[Lead Belly]

Teamsters: House will vote on Fast Track this week. Last chance to stop this job killing bill. Call NOW: 888-979-9806. Already called your Rep? Call again!

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

Thanks Lead Belly, call or email till your reps or Senators are sick of heaing from you. This job killing trade deal will affect you or someone you know

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