HOFFA , HALL AND OBRIEN campaign announcement

hyena

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Those folks that have no idea what our jobs (minus feeder runs) entail?
That's usually the case.

Yet our struggle (and strike) raises the bar for the companies similar to ours. Other teamsters got blessed out of our willingness to stand up against abuses...every day.

The question (on every ERI I've taken) never changes:
"If you were offered a job with similar wages and benefits would you take it?".
If this was utopia and the stress level of this job wasn't elevated to the level it is then why would the company worry about us "overpaid crybabies" dumping this job for a similar one with less stress?

Let's not downplay the truth that teamsters at ups have more stress than our counterparts and yet we endure, putting our faith in leadership that doesn't always respect what we do every day or that our workers comp frequency is multiplied times more than all other job frequencies in the US.

I believe every BA should go back to their old job or a job at UPS for a year every five years. That'll get some people's mind right.
Never forget where you come from.
 

hyena

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Hoffa sold us out brothers and sisters. Fact. All we can do now is vote him out. He doesn't care about our struggles, he FORCED a contract on us. Why did he force a contract on voting members rights? I understand loyalty but don't be blind. I'm not saying it'll be different with a new leader but at least we can have hope. So to anybody who reads this educate yourself on Hoffas policy's and decide if you you want to stand or fall.
 

hyena

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The fact that supplements were pushed through, show the IBT ' s leverage None! You don't negotiate with Ups without telling them my people are ready to strike period

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We had the leverage just didn't have the votes. The union needs to start being more active. Power is in numbers. The union needs to get more involved period.
 

wide load

Starting wage is a waste of time.
I thought that we were the union.
We are the Union when special interest groups want "reform". But when they need something, the international is the union so blame has a focus. Then when reform doesn't happen those same "special interests" spend 5 years complaining about it on social media.
 

10 point

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We are the Union when special interest groups want "reform". But when they need something, the international is the union so blame has a focus. Then when reform doesn't happen those same "special interests" spend 5 years complaining about it on social media.
A four year progression from pt to ft wage is special.

Downgrading to a lesser healthcare plan (the "enhanced" TeamCare is a down grade as well) from a company that squeezes their employees thru a strainer, nets 5+ billion $/year...even though when we were netting 1 billion ea year our plan was better.
That was special.

There were thousands of members with special interests (namely their families) complaining on social media when a record 18 sups and riders failed because of what "the union" leaders brought to the table for us "dues paying union members" to be hacked off about.

We haven't forgotten how this CBA was presented and the games played to get it passed. Offering us the C6 plan was just a ploy and we know it.

Life goes on. But memory is acute of the games played. We took one for the "team" care.
 
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BigUnionGuy

Got the T-Shirt
Hoffa sold us out brothers and sisters. Fact. All we can do now is vote him out. He doesn't care about our struggles, he FORCED a contract on us.
We had the leverage just didn't have the votes.


Even though these 2 posts contradict each other....

The latter, is the problem.

The union needs to start being more active. Power is in numbers. The union needs to get more involved period.

The Union is involved.

The members aren't.


The Union could be more involved.

But, how much more are you willing to pay in dues.... to make that happen ?

I'm not saying it'll be different with a new leader but at least we can have hope.


What's the old saying ?


"Hope in one hand, and crap in the other.... see which one fills up faster."



-Bug-
 
Even though these 2 posts contradict each other....

The latter, is the problem.



The Union is involved.

The members aren't.


The Union could be more involved.

But, how much more are you willing to pay in dues.... to make that happen ?




What's the old saying ?


"Hope in one hand, and crap in the other.... see which one fills up faster."



-Bug-
Looking at my involvement I don't see the average person doing it. It's just easier to go about their life and complain instead of putting in actual work. Either putting in hard work is in you nature of its not.
 
Even though these 2 posts contradict each other....

The latter, is the problem.



The Union is involved.

The members aren't.


The Union could be more involved.

But, how much more are you willing to pay in dues.... to make that happen ?




What's the old saying ?


"Hope in one hand, and crap in the other.... see which one fills up faster."



-Bug-
Hope is in essence like should could would can't maybe can you do it.
 

Ron Carey lives on

Well-Known Member
I really have a problem with a BA taking the time to make a video, whether its all factual or not and sending it to social media. Im sure he has pending grievances and work to do. That's what he get paid to do, not be a social media drama queen. Ridiculous and embarrassing

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