I drink your milkshake! a metaphor for capitalism

rickyb

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It Is Seven Times More Difficult To Get A Flight Attendant Job At Delta Than Enter Harvard

Having made it so far through the process, in which the lucky candidate literally has to be better than 99 of their peers, the new hires go through an eight-week training program in Atlanta where they learn how to handle mid-flight emergencies like a fire or a sick passenger. The company describes the training program as "grueling" and that it will "stretch each trainee to the limit" in a video.

Finally, having reached the promised land, what untold wealth and riches await the lucky guy or gal? Well... nothing more than minimum wage: average entry-level flight attendants earn roughly $25,000 a year, according to the company. Wait, that's it? Well, there are perks, such as the increasingly more unaffordable - for most - employee benefits which include health insurance coverage, 401(k) with a company match and a profit-sharing program. Workers also get travel privileges for themselves and family member."
 

rickyb

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RIP capitalism:


Fight For 15‏Verified account @fightfor15 2h2 hours ago

A stunning 94% of the 9 million new jobs created in the past decade were temp or contract-based gigs http://bit.ly/2oJdzVQ #FightFor15

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1989

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:censored2: the US government and its corporate masters:


Julian Assange ‏ @JulianAssange 22h22 hours ago

My deepest thanks to the US government, Senator McCain and Senator Lieberman for pushing Visa, MasterCard, Payal, AmEx, Mooneybookers, et al, into erecting an illegal banking blockade against @WikiLeaks starting in 2010. It caused us to invest in Bitcoin -- with > 50000% return.

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Prince Alwaleed says bitcoin will implode: 'Enron in the making

Prince Alwaleed says bitcoin will implode: 'Enron in the making'
 

rickyb

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one of my big mouth supervisors (who fortunately i dont have to see often) was comparing himself to hitler yesterday. i compared him to the indian darth vader.

some people make the connection between capitalism and dictatorships.
 

542thruNthru

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yea i do. i donated over $6000 this year, amongst other things.

what do you do again? be honest.

haha just a few dollars ;)

btw that 5000 i donated this year was matched so it doubled.

i encourage people to do anything. if your short on time or dont want to make time then donating is the way to go. UPSers are definitely short on time.

by the time fascism hits america, some people will realize too late. ditto for climate change. lets do anything now, instead of just posting on the forum.

btw where i live the middle class is completely dead because housing is so expensive. one of our tenants is american and she says she misses it because of the housing and car insurance.

I'm sorry I forgot. How much imaginary money did you donate this year? ;)
 

rickyb

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I'm sorry I forgot. How much imaginary money did you donate this year? ;)
the 5 was in the month they were matching, the months before that i had it locked in at roughly $110 usd a month i believe, and that started after tax season. before that i was doing roughly 1600 canadian a year all in spring time.

donating is perfect for UPS drivers because they are so overworked. american economy is a disaster, the politics is totally unresponsive (democrats too), so donating can make up for the lack of physical organizing you may do.

american economy is so bad it is comparable to what the russians had to endure in the 1990s when the US INTERFERED IN THEIR ELECTION (imagine that!), and everything was privatizing and life expectancy was dropping for russians due to alcohol abuse.

I saw video the other day where the democratic socialists of america had a town hall with i forget who i think a senator. at the beginning of the town hall the senator was against single payer healthcare, but they kept testifying to him, and by the end he said he would sign on to bernies bill. this is how power works.

trump would do the same if people were pressuring him.
 
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rickyb

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collective agreements and democratically controlled worker cooperatives have something in common. if you get rid of capitalism, you could view worker cooperatives as a collective agreement amongst themselves.
 

rickyb

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my coworker worked in australia and was comparing how much better australian work culture is to canadian work culture (america is worse than canada). im gonna get him to elaborate tomorrow and ill report here.
 

1989

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collective agreements and democratically controlled worker cooperatives have something in common. if you get rid of capitalism, you could view worker cooperatives as a collective agreement amongst themselves.
You can't keep 100% of workers happy under any system. Especially if you pay them at your pay rates.
 

rickyb

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You can't keep 100% of workers happy under any system. Especially if you pay them at your pay rates.
sure but there are already better systems than capitalism.

capitalism centralizes power which leads to abuse of power.

i was listening to yanis varoufakis, greeces former finance minister who tried to get brussels to be reasonable and write off / renegotiate part of greeces debt, and he said there is no democracy in the economy.
 

1989

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sure but there are already better systems than capitalism.

capitalism centralizes power which leads to abuse of power.

i was listening to yanis varoufakis, greeces former finance minister who tried to get brussels to be reasonable and write off / renegotiate part of greeces debt, and he said there is no democracy in the economy.
Unions and co ops have abuse of power also. Plus you want to lower people's wages. "Reasonably write off debt"????
 

rickyb

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Unions and co ops have abuse of power also. Plus you want to lower people's wages. "Reasonably write off debt"????
i agree.

no i want to raise peoples wages which is what coops can do when you get rid of wage exploitation.

yea a debt write off...like what greece did for germany after they lost wwII
 

1989

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i agree.

no i want to raise peoples wages which is what coops can do when you get rid of wage exploitation.

yea a debt write off...like what greece did for germany after they lost wwII
Your system would cut my income by over 60%. How about they take on responsible debt. The debtee always has an option take a haircut, and some do.
 
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