I drink your milkshake! a metaphor for capitalism

BrownArmy

Well-Known Member
I used PIA for years it's got good speeds, I just don't care anymore.

I torrent what I want straight to a networked hard drive that my Plex server connects to and I stream it to all my devices from there.

Honestly, I don't think anyone cares anymore.

Does the Trump administration care that we're watching movies online that we didn't pay for?

Doubt it.

There's really no way to police this, Hollywood is upset, but we all know Hollywood is SUPA LIBRUL, so not much love from Trump.

Plus, Trump is trying to suck up to China and Russia, it would be a bad move for him to crack down on on piracy.

Or election interference.

Or nuclear proliferation.

Or...Or...Or...

LMAO
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Honestly, I don't think anyone cares anymore.

Does the Trump administration care that we're watching movies online that we didn't pay for?

Doubt it.

There's really no way to police this, Hollywood is upset, but we all know Hollywood is SUPA LIBRUL, so not much love from Trump.

Plus, Trump is trying to suck up to China and Russia, it would be a bad move for him to crack down on on piracy.

Or election interference.

Or nuclear proliferation.

Or...Or...Or...

LMAO
Well.....
There's a misconception that the tech world is liberal. At it's roots it's libertarian and that goes back to the beginning of the internet, earlier even.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
I am a big boxing fan, and I used to buy ppv all the time. They put out a disappointing product too often for me to buy them. So, outside of a single can't miss fight, I no longer buy them. I wait until the following Saturday evening and watch them or either HBO or Showtime, to which I already subscribe, for no extra charge.

At least ufc puts out a quality product on the reg and gets the matchups the fans want to see done and on a card. They pump out quality ppv cards top to bottom on the reg.
a little patience goes a long way
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
places like vancouver and toronto have suffered a hyper inflation in terms of housing prices. but im not sure they use that language to describe it.
 

1989

Well-Known Member
chris hedges did a viddy on it with someone from san fran
“Some balls are held for charity
And some for fancy dress
But when they're held for pleasure,
They're the balls that I like best.”
Bon scott

I talked with someone from San Francisco yesterday. But I wasn’t vain enough to put it on video.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
“Some balls are held for charity
And some for fancy dress
But when they're held for pleasure,
They're the balls that I like best.”
Bon scott

I talked with someone from San Francisco yesterday. But I wasn’t vain enough to put it on video.
Good for you. Its was a prof.

Watched a david harvey vid and he says china is going to b a mass producer of tech and is already outdoing frisco
 

BrownArmy

Well-Known Member
“Some balls are held for charity
And some for fancy dress
But when they're held for pleasure,
They're the balls that I like best.”
Bon scott

I talked with someone from San Francisco yesterday. But I wasn’t vain enough to put it on video.

Love that album...
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
“Some balls are held for charity
And some for fancy dress
But when they're held for pleasure,
They're the balls that I like best.”
Bon scott

I talked with someone from San Francisco yesterday. But I wasn’t vain enough to put it on video.
no one will watch your youtube videos
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
steven tyler decries record executives ripping off musicians. him and smokey robinson testify in front of congress.

chuck d and prince consider record contracts slavery. macklemore made a song about it.

capitalism :censored2:ing over more and more people, benefitting fewer and fewer.

a musicians should get the most profits, followed by the workers and everyone else.

 

Operational needs

Virescit Vulnere Virtus
steven tyler decries record executives ripping off musicians. him and smokey robinson testify in front of congress.

chuck d and prince consider record contracts slavery. macklemore made a song about it.

capitalism :censored2:ing over more and more people, benefitting fewer and fewer.

a musicians should get the most profits, followed by the workers and everyone else.

Finally something we can agree on. Lol.
 

cosmo1

Perhaps.
Staff member
steven tyler decries record executives ripping off musicians. him and smokey robinson testify in front of congress.

chuck d and prince consider record contracts slavery. macklemore made a song about it.

capitalism :censored2:ing over more and more people, benefitting fewer and fewer.

a musicians should get the most profits, followed by the workers and everyone else.


And just how much content have you downloaded from P2P sharing sites?
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
michael hudson says 100 years ago industrial capitalists in US business schools thought that capitalism would evolve into socialism.

hudson says only thing that will save us from neo feudalism and barbarism is socialism and i agree.

capitalism is a slow motion implosion. and at some point it will blow up very quickly.

the longer we stall to implement an economic system which at least semi works, the fewer choices and more hard choices we will have to make in the future. capitalism is a complete failure.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
steven tyler decries record executives ripping off musicians. him and smokey robinson testify in front of congress.

chuck d and prince consider record contracts slavery. macklemore made a song about it.

capitalism :censored2:ing over more and more people, benefitting fewer and fewer.

a musicians should get the most profits, followed by the workers and everyone else.

You want companies to exist to make CD's for you to listen to, or put content online, to promote it to make you aware, but to give the lion's share to the artist? Musicians make the bulk of their money giving concerts, and people like Steven Tyler are anything but poor. Guess they would prefer to do a lot less live performances and just watch the money roll in from recordings. What they should do is create their own record label, invest in studios, equipment, distribution chains. Oh, wait, that would mean risking their own money. Why do that when you can let others risk their money for your benefit?
 

LarryBird

Well-Known Member
You want companies to exist to make CD's for you to listen to, or put content online, to promote it to make you aware, but to give the lion's share to the artist? Musicians make the bulk of their money giving concerts, and people like Steven Tyler are anything but poor. Guess they would prefer to do a lot less live performances and just watch the money roll in from recordings. What they should do is create their own record label, invest in studios, equipment, distribution chains. Oh, wait, that would mean risking their own money. Why do that when you can let others risk their money for your benefit?
That's an entirely disingenuous post.

While the record companies provide a valuable service to artists, although they're far less important than they used to be, they've been ripping the musicians off since the day the 1st dollar was made.

You act as though they're taking all this risk, and while that's partially true, realistically I'd argue they're splitting the risks with the artist, who ultimately pays the labels back in full for distribution, promotional duties and marketing, cover art and design, and studio time, before the artist sees a nickel. Taking this into account, along with the fact that tons of the contracts have been challenged in court and ruled in the artists favor, and it's been known that they've preyed upon literal starving artists for a long long time. (Don't be the guy that takes the record labels side. There's always one in every crowd, but you don't have to be that one - it's a conscious decision for you to look like a doosh on this issue.)

That's why this post-napster era in music has been such a renaissance, much of the independent music put out since 2000 has rivaled the best music ever made, and boutique labels with large scale distribution deals have taken over the rest of the game, and paced the indies on quality all along the way, while taking major artists away from the big labels by giving them fair deals and creative control, plus ownership of their publishing and masters.

The major labels have tried to stick their claws into artists even deeper, as their once lucrative record sales have dried up, and their revenue streams shrunk or vanished altogether - they've begun signing naive, poor, young artists to all-inclusive deals that include their likeness, merchandising, record sales/downloads, streaming fees, ownership of the masters, and a percentage of both publishing and live gates...that is :censored2:ing insane. Totally insane. They're essentially trying to take away or share in, all the income streams an artist has outside of their record sales, since the label's old business model has failed/been forever altered by technology, and is not done changing yet. They're undoubtedly trying to vacuum up the last few billion from a dying industry that will finally empower the artists, once the full disruption potential of the business is realized and social media becomes fully ubiquitous and the product marketing algorithms make traditional mass advertising totally obsolete.
 

1989

Well-Known Member
steven tyler decries record executives ripping off musicians. him and smokey robinson testify in front of congress.

chuck d and prince consider record contracts slavery. macklemore made a song about it.

capitalism :censored2:ing over more and more people, benefitting fewer and fewer.

a musicians should get the most profits, followed by the workers and everyone else.

“Are we gonna let the elevator bring us down”

“Lovin' it up till I hit the ground”

Ricky, without capitalism, Steven Tyler wouldn’t be a “rich old fu” now.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
“Are we gonna let the elevator bring us down”

“Lovin' it up till I hit the ground”

Ricky, without capitalism, Steven Tyler wouldn’t be a “rich old fu” now.
hes probably been screwed over by the industry himself.

and actually rich musicians and the industry should charge people less for their stuff.

i saw prophets of rage and they made a point to limit the price of their tickets.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
You want companies to exist to make CD's for you to listen to, or put content online, to promote it to make you aware, but to give the lion's share to the artist? Musicians make the bulk of their money giving concerts, and people like Steven Tyler are anything but poor. Guess they would prefer to do a lot less live performances and just watch the money roll in from recordings. What they should do is create their own record label, invest in studios, equipment, distribution chains. Oh, wait, that would mean risking their own money. Why do that when you can let others risk their money for your benefit?
so youre saying chuck d, prince, and steven tyler criticism about the record labels is wrong...

i especially trust chuck d, PE are greatest rappers ever.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
That's an entirely disingenuous post.

While the record companies provide a valuable service to artists, although they're far less important than they used to be, they've been ripping the musicians off since the day the 1st dollar was made.

You act as though they're taking all this risk, and while that's partially true, realistically I'd argue they're splitting the risks with the artist, who ultimately pays the labels back in full for distribution, promotional duties and marketing, cover art and design, and studio time, before the artist sees a nickel. Taking this into account, along with the fact that tons of the contracts have been challenged in court and ruled in the artists favor, and it's been known that they've preyed upon literal starving artists for a long long time. (Don't be the guy that takes the record labels side. There's always one in every crowd, but you don't have to be that one - it's a conscious decision for you to look like a doosh on this issue.)

That's why this post-napster era in music has been such a renaissance, much of the independent music put out since 2000 has rivaled the best music ever made, and boutique labels with large scale distribution deals have taken over the rest of the game, and paced the indies on quality all along the way, while taking major artists away from the big labels by giving them fair deals and creative control, plus ownership of their publishing and masters.

The major labels have tried to stick their claws into artists even deeper, as their once lucrative record sales have dried up, and their revenue streams shrunk or vanished altogether - they've begun signing naive, poor, young artists to all-inclusive deals that include their likeness, merchandising, record sales/downloads, streaming fees, ownership of the masters, and a percentage of both publishing and live gates...that is :censored2:ing insane. Totally insane. They're essentially trying to take away or share in, all the income streams an artist has outside of their record sales, since the label's old business model has failed/been forever altered by technology, and is not done changing yet. They're undoubtedly trying to vacuum up the last few billion from a dying industry that will finally empower the artists, once the full disruption potential of the business is realized and social media becomes fully ubiquitous and the product marketing algorithms make traditional mass advertising totally obsolete.
the thing about vanextan is he usually sides with the powerful, not the poweless.

but hes a union man at least....

macklemores got a song about record labels too, its called jimmy iovine LOL.
 

1989

Well-Known Member
so youre saying chuck d, prince, and steven tyler criticism about the record labels is wrong...

i especially trust chuck d, PE are greatest rappers ever.
I didn’t say they were wrong about record labels. I said they are not speaking against capitalism at a net worth of over $130 mil.
 
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