I drink your milkshake! a metaphor for capitalism

[rickyb]

Democracy is not equal rule, if you vote a different way than the majority than you’re forced to do what they want it’s called mob rule.
The many controlling the few and there is no liberty.

theres a few different kinds of democracies. north america is a winner take all. other countries have proportional which is better.

 

[Thebrownblob]

theres a few different kinds of democracies. north america is a winner take all. other countries have proportional which is better.

Lol so then you don’t even even believe in the thing you just said? One person one vote.

 

[rickyb]

Lol so then you don’t even even believe in the thing you just said? One person one vote.

its still one person one vote but then whats done after the votes are counted is whats different. ours is less democratic.

 

[Thebrownblob]

its still one person one vote but then whats done after the votes are counted is whats different. ours is less democratic.

Again, that is not one person one vote so you do not believe in that. We have a republic here and it has worked well for a couple hundred years although some have said occasionally, the tree of liberty needs to be shaken

 

[rickyb]

Again, that is not one person one vote so you do not believe in that. We have a republic here and it has worked well for a couple hundred years although some have said occasionally, the tree of liberty needs to be shaken

i dont think it has worked. only a few people used to be able to vote in america. more people were only able to vote over time because people complained about it. theyre trending to get rid of the electoral college. and we almost did proportional representation 10 years ago but trudeau lied and the right wing or left wing didnt have a trucker protest about it to make him do it.

i like proportional representation because like you said not everyone agrees and it forces the parties to come to a compromise.

 

[Thebrownblob]

i dont think it has worked. only a few people used to be able to vote in america. more people were only able to vote over time because people complained about it. theyre trending to get rid of the electoral college. and we almost did proportional representation 10 years ago but trudeau lied and the right wing or left wing didnt have a trucker protest about it to make him do it.

i like proportional representation because like you said not everyone agrees and it forces the parties to come to a compromise.

I said it has worked well, and there were obviously shortcomings, and they have been addressed over the years and continue to be. There is no perfect system because there is no perfect humans.

 

[rickyb]

I said it has worked well, and there were obviously shortcomings, and they have been addressed over the years and continue to be. There is no perfect system because there is no perfect humans.

no one has a monopoly on truth including rickyb

 

[rickyb]

I said it has worked well, and there were obviously shortcomings, and they have been addressed over the years and continue to be. There is no perfect system because there is no perfect humans.

some power systems are working better than others. we should do the best one.

 

[Thebrownblob]

some power systems are working better than others. we should do the best one.

We are

 

[rickyb]

We are

I dont think north americas winner takes all is the best

I like our rarely used referendums

 

[Thebrownblob]

I dont think north americas winner takes all is the best

I like our rarely used referendums

We don’t have winter take all . We have a representative Republic.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

There’s never been and never will be equal power. Human beings will never allow that.

 

[rickyb]

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a prison....for your mind - morpheus

the matrix

 

[rickyb]

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we dont want racism or you know hitler saying jews and 6 million other groups should go to the gas chamber

we dont want special treatment of managers while workers are treated worse

i make a strong case for equality.

 

[rickyb]

We don’t have winter take all . We have a representative Republic.

French President Macron Names Centrist François Bayrou as New Prime Minister

French President Emmanuel Macron has appointed centrist ally François Bayrou as prime minister following the collapse of the previous government in a no-confidence vote. In choosing Bayrou, Macron once again eschewed widespread calls for him to select a progressive prime minister, after a...

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the founding fathers called it representative republic?

 

[Box Ox]

We don’t have winter take all . We have a representative Republic.

French President Macron Names Centrist François Bayrou as New Prime Minister

French President Emmanuel Macron has appointed centrist ally François Bayrou as prime minister following the collapse of the previous government in a no-confidence vote. In choosing Bayrou, Macron once again eschewed widespread calls for him to select a progressive prime minister, after a...

www.democracynow.org

the founding fathers called it representative republic?

3 Quotes From Founding Fathers Remind Us Why We Are a Constitutional Republic (Not a Democracy)

There are profound differences between a democracy and a constitutional republic that are crucial to every aspect of American life.

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“The Founders were explicit about their views on democracy, and for that reason, they looked hard, and found solutions that led to what we now call a constitutional republic. Our system may not be perfect, but it is one in which every voice can be heard.”

 

[rickyb]

3 Quotes From Founding Fathers Remind Us Why We Are a Constitutional Republic (Not a Democracy)

There are profound differences between a democracy and a constitutional republic that are crucial to every aspect of American life.

www.dailysignal.com

“The Founders were explicit about their views on democracy, and for that reason, they looked hard, and found solutions that led to what we now call a constitutional republic. Our system may not be perfect, but it is one in which every voice can be heard.”

they werent a noble bunch of guys but it was pre capitalist era too.

check out what howard zinn has to say about them

 

[Box Ox]

they werent a noble bunch of guys but it was pre capitalist era too.

check out what howard zinn has to say about them

You can’t provide a link to or quote from what Howard Zinn has to say about them?

 

[rickyb]

You can’t provide a link to or quote from what Howard Zinn has to say about them?

The Greatest Generation? - Howard Zinn

Article by Howard Zinn. The Progressive. August 2001. "They tell me I am a member of the greatest generation. That's because I saw combat duty as a bombardier in World War II, and we (I almost said 'I') won the war against fascism. ...That idea is perpetuated by an artillery barrage of books and...

www.howardzinn.org

you can read the chapter in peoples history too. my friend read it for school and gave me an unenthusiastic review of these guys

jedi master chomsky has talked about them too. i think basically he said they protected wealth.

 

[vantexan]

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The Greatest Generation? - Howard Zinn

Article by Howard Zinn. The Progressive. August 2001. "They tell me I am a member of the greatest generation. That's because I saw combat duty as a bombardier in World War II, and we (I almost said 'I') won the war against fascism. ...That idea is perpetuated by an artillery barrage of books and...

www.howardzinn.org

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you can read the chapter in peoples history too. my friend read it for school and gave me an unenthusiastic review of these guys

jedi master chomsky has talked about them too. i think basically he said they protected wealth.

The Shays Rebellion led to creating the Constitution. They were rebelling against high state taxes, which under the Articles of Confederation the states had too much power and the central government not enough.