I drink your milkshake! a metaphor for capitalism

rickyb

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The Shays Rebellion led to creating the Constitution. They were rebelling against high state taxes, which under the Articles of Confederation the states had too much power and the central government not enough.
The media always talks about politicians glowingly after they leave office except maybe trump and yet theyre all garbage

Same for FFs
 

rickyb

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it was the night before christmas and all of santas workers were taking orders from the big man, working sick, working in unsafe conditions, getting low pay, and frankly making too much disposable consumer products.

they formed a union but it wasnt good enough. they went on strike and were beaten by the police.

the only option left for santa's workers was to run the jobs themselves and stop being employees. santa depends on the workers not the other way around.
 

rickyb

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mom bought a condo here for 1.5x her hospital clerk income when the population was 2/3 the present. she had a view and it was a big 1 bedroom and very close to downtown of a major city.

is there anywhere anywhere in the metro area where you can buy a condo for 1.5x the income?

is this country running out of land?

the population growth is at 65 year low. for the metro area at least. the country experienced very high population growth.
 
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Thebrownblob

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mom bought a condo here for 1.5x her hospital clerk income when the population was 2/3 the present. she had a view and it was a big 1 bedroom and very close to downtown of a major city.

is there anywhere anywhere in the metro area where you can buy a condo for 1.5x the income?

is this country running out of land?

the population growth is at 65 year low.
Move
 

Thebrownblob

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the middle class is being viciously attacked.

housing prices are not based on immigration.

it is based on something more asinine like banks creating debt.

we need a trucker protest to fix the housing market which will expand the middle class.
You didn’t support the truckers
 

rickyb

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im watching this right now and america doesnt have manufacturing jobs really anymore thats why trump and obama got elected. you do have people retiring and an economic cycle of low unemployment.

i watched 22 minutes.....i agree theres affordable housing in some cities. many cities should be way more affordable than they are. theres a small town, population 5000 and housing prices doubled last 10 years, for condos anyways. its disgusting. its 30 min from world class skiing but otherwise its in the middle of nowhere and its surrounded by land.

rents have doubled here in 10 years. incomes have probably gone up a few percent a year. rents in these small towns 1hr or 2 hrs from here are now the same price as the big city 10 years ago. what are those rents based on? just bull:censored2: like banks creating debt.

i wouldve had more respect for the guy if he showed bank profits over time adjused for inflation and housing prices. or consumer debt to incomes over time. because i guarantee you the housing prices are based on something asinine like banks creating debt. its mostly banks creating debt and its wrecking the middle class in many cities.

why listen to this guy? why not listen to a good economist for analysis on the housing market. theres lots of bad economists too.


this is not what i wanted to show. this probably right wing realtor has actually interviewed good economists like steve keen:
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this is what i wanted to show.

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Thebrownblob

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im watching this right now and america doesnt have manufacturing jobs really anymore thats why trump and obama got elected. you do have people retiring and an economic cycle of low unemployment.

i watched 22 minutes.....i agree theres affordable housing in some cities. many cities should be way more affordable than they are. theres a small town, population 5000 and housing prices doubled last 10 years, for condos anyways. its disgusting. its 30 min from world class skiing but otherwise its in the middle of nowhere and its surrounded by land.

rents have doubled here in 10 years. incomes have probably gone up a few percent a year. rents in these small towns 1hr or 2 hrs from here are now the same price as the big city 10 years ago. what are those rents based on? just bull:censored2: like banks creating debt.

i wouldve had more respect for the guy if he showed bank profits over time adjused for inflation and housing prices. or consumer debt to incomes over time. because i guarantee you the housing prices are based on something asinine like banks creating debt. its mostly banks creating debt and its wrecking the middle class in many cities.

why listen to this guy? why not listen to a good economist for analysis on the housing market. theres lots of bad economists too.


this is not what i wanted to show. this probably right wing realtor has actually interviewed good economists like steve keen:
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this is what i wanted to show.

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Good economist probably are terrible with their own money. Booksmart does not even come close to StreetSmarts in the real world. The gentleman in the video owns two homes. And is showing you that. There’s plenty of housing as long as you don’t wanna live in a giant city.. most people aren’t smart enough to figure this out and build equity in a home they’re looking to move right into some $500,000 property that’s already been redone and somebody else made the money on it.
 

rickyb

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Good economist probably are terrible with their own money. Booksmart does not even come close to StreetSmarts in the real world. The gentleman in the video owns two homes. And is showing you that. There’s plenty of housing as long as you don’t wanna live in a giant city.. most people aren’t smart enough to figure this out and build equity in a home they’re looking to move right into some $500,000 property that’s already been redone and somebody else made the money on it.
Good economists are not necessarily terrible with their own money

How fast is housing prices going up? It doubled in 10 years, the rents. How many years until ppl cant afford it even in the affordable areas now? 20 years?

What is the prices based on?

I agree there are affordable houses in some cities. What was the price relative to a certain professions income 50 years ago?
 

Thebrownblob

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Good economists are not necessarily terrible with their own money

How fast is housing prices going up? It doubled in 10 years, the rents. How many years until ppl cant afford it even in the affordable areas now? 20 years?

What is the prices based on?

I agree there are affordable houses in some cities. What was the price relative to a certain professions income 50 years ago?
@rickyb logic would tell you if housing prices are doubling in 10 years you would be wise to buy as many as possible you will be rich in 10 years. Or at the very least self-sustaining.
 

rickyb

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@rickyb logic would tell you if housing prices are doubling in 10 years you would be wise to buy as many as possible you will be rich in 10 years. Or at the very least self-sustaining.
Wat did orwell tell us? I am thinking about what he said and how quickly prices are going up relative to incomes

You are right that there is still reasonable housing in some cities for some reason. And that lasts only 20 years maybe? And whos to say were not getting ripped off now? Why should we stand to get ripped off
 

Thebrownblob

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Wat did orwell tell us? I am thinking about what he said and how quickly prices are going up relative to incomes

You are right that there is still reasonable housing in some cities for some reason. And that lasts only 20 years maybe? And whos to say were not getting ripped off now? Why should we stand to get ripped off
So we can rip off the next generation, obviously @rickyb. Sheesh get with the program.
 
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