I drink your milkshake! a metaphor for capitalism

rickyb

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Tell me where there’s more opportunity than here? Nothing is perfect. success in any business or any job is highly dependent on the individual. Liberty still exists here even if there has been an assault against it over the years.
epi has something called social mobility and theres countries with higher. i agree liberty is under assault.
 

Thebrownblob

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Grim fact: in 1860, the economic value of enslaved people in the United States exceeded the invested value of all of the nation's railroads, factories, and banks combined.
Bright reality: that was a long time ago. Even if those estimates are true, the chains of those mistakes were broken, with blood and determination set up with the fact the Constitution was written to include that all men are created equal.
 

Thebrownblob

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it was founded on genocide and slavery
Nope.

But interesting you believe that lie while, realizing that everyone still wants to come here. If it was true, why would they want to? We are not as bad as the darkest of our past. One of the few societies that has tried to correct it wrongs.
 

rickyb

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Nope.

But interesting you believe that lie while, realizing that everyone still wants to come here. If it was true, why would they want to? We are not as bad as the darkest of our past. One of the few societies that has tried to correct it wrongs.
everyone doesnt want to come to america which is why canada and greenland dont want to join.

im down to join but many things need to be fixed first.

people in latin america want to come for sure.
 

rickyb

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But Ricky genocide!
i was going to look up a chris hedges quote but its easily found on google

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vantexan

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@vantexan you should see this since youre part native and dont believe it either.
What don't I believe? Well documented that early settlers entered native villages to find them all dead. As that article pointed out that there was an estimated population of 8 million Native Americans in 1492 but by 1776 the U.S. population was about 4 million, mostly white. Also large numbers of slaves. But that number was in the 13 colonies that became the U.S. There were much larger numbers in Mexico and Central and South America. There was an estimated 20 million living in the Amazon region who were wiped out by white man diseases.

Wikipedia can be altered by anyone. The woke want us to believe whites are intrinsically evil while all other races are pure of heart and motive. This turns other races into imbeciles and children. Humans in every corner of the globe, and long before interaction with whites, were killing and enslaving each other. And committing genocide.

Want to prove genocide was committed in what is now the U.S. by whites against Native Americans? You'll have to get rid of all the reservations first. The whites fought wars with the natives. Better technology and superior.numbers won out. There were certainly atrocities committed. Some extremely evil things done. There's simply no way in an area as vast as the North American continent that the government or settler leadership could control everything and everyone in a uniform manner. Evil people did evil things here and there. And the natives did evil things too. Savage things. In the end we were left with a country that could be settled and developed. And if white Western Europeans hadn't done it then eventually Russians or Chinese or some other powerful group would have. There was simply too much land, too many resources, to be left untouched. To allow people who hadn't even invented the wheel yet to control. That's the harsh reality of life. Civilized people set aside reservations, uncivilized hordes wipe out everything in their path. That was what the Mongols and others did to Asia and Eastern Europe. Not what white Europeans did to North America.
 

vantexan

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im going to europe, australia / nz, rich asia before i go to latin america.
Why would you go to areas full of genocidal people instead of showing solidarity with the poor in Latin America or poor Asia? While you rag on white North Americans you seem to forget they came from Europe. The Europeans continued their control of the world through colonization. The rich Asians? What about the Japanese killing so many Asians before and during WWII? Aren't you being a bit hypocritical?
 

rickyb

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What don't I believe? Well documented that early settlers entered native villages to find them all dead. As that article pointed out that there was an estimated population of 8 million Native Americans in 1492 but by 1776 the U.S. population was about 4 million, mostly white. Also large numbers of slaves. But that number was in the 13 colonies that became the U.S. There were much larger numbers in Mexico and Central and South America. There was an estimated 20 million living in the Amazon region who were wiped out by white man diseases.

Wikipedia can be altered by anyone. The woke want us to believe whites are intrinsically evil while all other races are pure of heart and motive. This turns other races into imbeciles and children. Humans in every corner of the globe, and long before interaction with whites, were killing and enslaving each other. And committing genocide.

Want to prove genocide was committed in what is now the U.S. by whites against Native Americans? You'll have to get rid of all the reservations first. The whites fought wars with the natives. Better technology and superior.numbers won out. There were certainly atrocities committed. Some extremely evil things done. There's simply no way in an area as vast as the North American continent that the government or settler leadership could control everything and everyone in a uniform manner. Evil people did evil things here and there. And the natives did evil things too. Savage things. In the end we were left with a country that could be settled and developed. And if white Western Europeans hadn't done it then eventually Russians or Chinese or some other powerful group would have. There was simply too much land, too many resources, to be left untouched. To allow people who hadn't even invented the wheel yet to control. That's the harsh reality of life. Civilized people set aside reservations, uncivilized hordes wipe out everything in their path. That was what the Mongols and others did to Asia and Eastern Europe. Not what white Europeans did to North America.
the over 90% number is accurate

ive never heard anything about whites being intrinsically evil, that would be giving too much credit to the other races LOL
 

rickyb

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Why would you go to areas full of genocidal people instead of showing solidarity with the poor in Latin America or poor Asia? While you rag on white North Americans you seem to forget they came from Europe. The Europeans continued their control of the world through colonization. The rich Asians? What about the Japanese killing so many Asians before and during WWII? Aren't you being a bit hypocritical?
im going there because theyre the most civilized for whatever reason and i respect that.
 

vantexan

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the over 90% number is accurate

ive never heard anything about whites being intrinsically evil, that would be giving too much credit to the other races LOL
Then you aren't paying attention. That's exactly what the woke professors in universities teach. And the 90% number was overwhelmingly due to disease.
 

rickyb

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What don't I believe? Well documented that early settlers entered native villages to find them all dead. As that article pointed out that there was an estimated population of 8 million Native Americans in 1492 but by 1776 the U.S. population was about 4 million, mostly white. Also large numbers of slaves. But that number was in the 13 colonies that became the U.S. There were much larger numbers in Mexico and Central and South America. There was an estimated 20 million living in the Amazon region who were wiped out by white man diseases.

Wikipedia can be altered by anyone. The woke want us to believe whites are intrinsically evil while all other races are pure of heart and motive. This turns other races into imbeciles and children. Humans in every corner of the globe, and long before interaction with whites, were killing and enslaving each other. And committing genocide.

Want to prove genocide was committed in what is now the U.S. by whites against Native Americans? You'll have to get rid of all the reservations first. The whites fought wars with the natives. Better technology and superior.numbers won out. There were certainly atrocities committed. Some extremely evil things done. There's simply no way in an area as vast as the North American continent that the government or settler leadership could control everything and everyone in a uniform manner. Evil people did evil things here and there. And the natives did evil things too. Savage things. In the end we were left with a country that could be settled and developed. And if white Western Europeans hadn't done it then eventually Russians or Chinese or some other powerful group would have. There was simply too much land, too many resources, to be left untouched. To allow people who hadn't even invented the wheel yet to control. That's the harsh reality of life. Civilized people set aside reservations, uncivilized hordes wipe out everything in their path. That was what the Mongols and others did to Asia and Eastern Europe. Not what white Europeans did to North America.
what does this bold mean?
 
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