Immigration

[DriveInDriveOut]

1) The United States does not formally recognize dual citizenship. However, it also has not taken any stand against it, either legally or politically. Typically, no American will forfeit his or her citizenship by undertaking the responsibilities of citizenship in another country.

source findlaw .

2) i would also point you to the actual oath of citizenship of which i am very familair, you will notice you have to swear off all allegiance to any other country when you do so.

Oath of Allegiance I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the armed forces of the United States when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, so help me God. A simple version of the oath would read:  I swear that I will not be loyal to any other country.  I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the U.S.  I will defend the U.S. from enemies outside and inside the U.S.  I will bear arms, carry a gun or fight, for the United States if asked.  I will do non-fighting work for the military if asked.  I will do important work for the country if asked.  I take this oath freely and with out any doubts.

Fake news.

 

[Sportello]

There have been an awful lot of dual citizens with high posts in the US Government.

 

[newfie]

Fake news.

sorrrrrrry you lose on this one.

 

[Jkloc420]

There have been an awful lot of dual citizens with high posts in the US Government.

we need to start shiiping out russians 2

 

[newfie]

There have been an awful lot of dual citizens with high posts in the US Government.

i listed my sources

 

[Sportello]

i listed my sources

Do you want a star?

Afroyim v. Rusk

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

sorrrrrrry you lose on this one.

Popular vote?
Nah that was Trump

So
Much
Losing

 

[Sportello]

New week, new poll:

Poll: 58 percent disapprove of Trump's handling of immigration

 

[Turdferguson]

Anti-Trump mood sways Mexican voters in U.S. in favor of Lopez Obrador

TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - Hundreds of Mexicans living in California drove for hours on Sunday to vote south of the border for Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador as president, persuaded by his pledges to stand up to U.S President Donald Trump and end graft and violence at home.


They left the USA to go home to vote ? Who let them back in ?

UPS made a fortune on shipping absentee voting papers. We got tons of them here

 

[MAKAVELI]

1) The United States does not formally recognize dual citizenship. However, it also has not taken any stand against it, either legally or politically. Typically, no American will forfeit his or her citizenship by undertaking the responsibilities of citizenship in another country.

source findlaw .

2) i would also point you to the actual oath of citizenship of which i am very familair, you will notice you have to swear off all allegiance to any other country when you do so.

Oath of Allegiance I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the armed forces of the United States when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, so help me God. A simple version of the oath would read:  I swear that I will not be loyal to any other country.  I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the U.S.  I will defend the U.S. from enemies outside and inside the U.S.  I will bear arms, carry a gun or fight, for the United States if asked.  I will do non-fighting work for the military if asked.  I will do important work for the country if asked.  I take this oath freely and with out any doubts.

And here is the actual law regarding dual citizenship in the US.

Dual Nationality
Section 101(a)(22) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) states that “the term ‘national of the United States’ means (A) a citizen of the United States, or (B) a person who, though not a citizen of the United States, owes permanent allegiance to the United States.” Therefore, U.S. citizens are also U.S. nationals. Non-citizen nationality status refers only individuals who were born either in American Samoa or on Swains Island to parents who are not citizens of the United States. The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a national of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own nationality laws based on its own policy. Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. national parents may be both a U.S. national and a national of the country of birth. Or, an individual having one nationality at birth may naturalize at a later date in another country and become a dual national.

U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another. A U.S. citizen may naturalize in a foreign state without any risk to his or her U.S. citizenship. However, persons who acquire a foreign nationality after age 18 by applying for it may relinquish their U.S. nationality if they wish to do so. In order to relinquish U.S. nationality by virtue of naturalization as a citizen of a foreign state, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign nationality voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. nationality. Intent may be shown by the person’s statements and conduct.

Dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries, and either country has the right to enforce its laws. It is important to note the problems attendant to dual nationality. Claims of other countries upon U.S. dual-nationals often place them in situations where their obligations to one country are in conflict with the laws of the other. In addition, their dual nationality may hamper efforts of the U.S. Government to provide consular protection to them when they are abroad, especially when they are in the country of their second nationality.

U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport to travel to or from a country other than the United States is not inconsistent with U.S. law.

 

[newfie]

Do you want a star?

it would help

 

[newfie]

And here is the actual law regarding dual citizenship in the US.

Dual Nationality
Section 101(a)(22) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) states that “the term ‘national of the United States’ means (A) a citizen of the United States, or (B) a person who, though not a citizen of the United States, owes permanent allegiance to the United States.” Therefore, U.S. citizens are also U.S. nationals. Non-citizen nationality status refers only individuals who were born either in American Samoa or on Swains Island to parents who are not citizens of the United States. The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a national of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own nationality laws based on its own policy. Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. national parents may be both a U.S. national and a national of the country of birth. Or, an individual having one nationality at birth may naturalize at a later date in another country and become a dual national.

U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another. A U.S. citizen may naturalize in a foreign state without any risk to his or her U.S. citizenship. However, persons who acquire a foreign nationality after age 18 by applying for it may relinquish their U.S. nationality if they wish to do so. In order to relinquish U.S. nationality by virtue of naturalization as a citizen of a foreign state, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign nationality voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. nationality. Intent may be shown by the person’s statements and conduct.

Dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries, and either country has the right to enforce its laws. It is important to note the problems attendant to dual nationality. Claims of other countries upon U.S. dual-nationals often place them in situations where their obligations to one country are in conflict with the laws of the other. In addition, their dual nationality may hamper efforts of the U.S. Government to provide consular protection to them when they are abroad, especially when they are in the country of their second nationality.

U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport to travel to or from a country other than the United States is not inconsistent with U.S. law.

none of this disputes the original point i made which you guys have pissed around but not on.

the US does not recognize dual citizenship

 

[tonyexpress]

New week, new poll:

Poll: 58 percent disapprove of Trump's handling of immigration

Sixty percent of voters polled agreed with the president’s argument that Democrats are more interested in "exploiting the nation's immigration issue for political gain,” compared to 34 percent of respondents who said Democrats are more interested in "resolving the nation's immigration issue."

 

[MAKAVELI]

none of this disputes the original point i made which you guys have around but not on.

the US does not recognize dual citizenship

It's right here in black and white. I can't help you if can't comprehend English.


The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a national of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own nationality laws based on its own policy. Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. national parents may be both a U.S. national and a national of the country of birth. Or, an individual having one nationality at birth may naturalize at a later date in another country and become a dual national.

U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another. A U.S. citizen may naturalize in a foreign state without any risk to his or her U.S. citizenship.

 

[newfie]

It's right here in black and white. I can't help you if can't comprehend English.


The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a national of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own nationality laws based on its own policy. Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. national parents may be both a U.S. national and a national of the country of birth. Or, an individual having one nationality at birth may naturalize at a later date in another country and become a dual national.

U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another. A U.S. citizen may naturalize in a foreign state without any risk to his or her U.S. citizenship.

you're arguing about something different .

again the US does not recognize dual citizenship.

 

[MAKAVELI]

you're arguing about something different .

again the US does not recognize dual citizenship.

Actually I'm not. You're just arguing semantics. The fact is the US is among many countries that allow dual citizenship. there is no specific requirement to relinquish your citizenship of another country to become a u. S. Citizen.

 

[Fred's Myth]

If you ask someone a question, and they give you an entirely accurate answer that is of no practical use whatsoever, they have just given you a Mathematician's Answer.

 

[newfie]

Actually I'm not. You're just arguing semantics. The fact is the US is among many countries that allow dual citizenship. there is no specific requirement to relinquish your citizenship of another country to become a u. S. Citizen.

actually you're arguing semantics. I made the first post on this subject to the point that the US does not recognize dual citizenship.
in my references i also showed that the US does not do anything to anyone that has through some process acquired dual citizenship.
you folks have been trying to argue that point with semantics.

 

[vantexan]

none of this disputes the original point i made which you guys have around but not on.

the US does not recognize dual citizenship

I've been following expat forums for years and quite a few of them hold citizenship in other countries. They aren't required to give up their U.S. citizenship to do so. On the other hand know a lady in Mexico, U.S. citizen, who's son was born there, making him both a Mexican and U.S. citizen(his father was Mexican). When he joined the U.S. Navy he had to renounce his Mexican citizenship to do so. She said that's a U.S. thing, Mexico still considers him a citizen.

 

[MAKAVELI]

If you ask someone a question, and they give you an entirely accurate answer that is of no practical use whatsoever, they have just given you a Mathematician's Answer.

Except nobody asked you a question.