Immigration

[Babagounj]

But ( I forget which poster ) calls the missiles fireworks , which just shows how uninformed they are .

I'm all for legal immigration , those that come here illegally I have no respect for.
If businesses use them for cheap labor then it's a deed of their own making .
I do not want to spend gov't monies for their housing nor helping them stay here .
Any liberal who does want to help them , please step forward and make yourselves known , so that you personally can provide for them .
But I know none will .
They enjoy spending other peoples monies , just not their own .
Quite frankly they are all just loud mouth empty bags of mostly water .

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I'm all for legal immigration , those that come here illegally I have no respect for.

So you think the process we have for legal immigration is working?

 

[Babagounj]

I know that flooding the country with uneducated , non english speaking , the diseased is not going to help raise our national status .
Kick them out , along with every overstay visa .

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I know that flooding the country with uneducated , non english speaking , the diseased is not going to help raise our national status .
Kick them out , along with every overstay visa .

Exactly the response I expected. Infected LOL. They're not zombies, they're just poor.

Obviously we can't support a welfare state with open borders. But we reward them with birthright citizenship for their children. I would do the same thing as them for my children. Sounds like your problem is with the constitution.

 

[Babagounj]

You are confused about the 14th Amendment .
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside."
"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."
The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete. With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

You are confused about the 14th Amendment .
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside."
"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."
The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete. With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship.

That's a pathetic attempt to read what you want and ignore what's right in front of your face.

 

[The Other Side]

That's a pathetic attempt to read what you want and ignore what's right in front of your face.

YUP.

TOS.

 

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[moreluck]

http://clashdaily.com/2014/08/kiss-gene-simmons-immigrants-learn-speak-g-d-english/

 

[Babagounj]

That's a pathetic attempt to read what you want and ignore what's right in front of your face.

I have heard many others state the same thing about the two of you .

 

[Babagounj]

http://dailysignal.com/2014/08/12/o...-600-illegal-immigrants-criminal-convictions/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/12/dhs-broke-law-releasing-criminal-aliens-audit/

It just makes me feel warm all over knowing that our gov't has its citizens best interests as their first priority .

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Liberals want to focus only on the human side of illegal immigration to distract from the cause. That cause is a wide open broken border.

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[MAKAVELI]

Liberals want to focus only on the human side of illegal immigration to distract from the cause. That cause is a wide open broken border.

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And yet no Republic president has closed it.

 

[moreluck]

And yet no Republic president has closed it.

We don't want it closed.....just secured !!

 

[Babagounj]

And yet no Republic president has closed it.

President Eisenhower and Operation Wetback.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico

 

[MAKAVELI]

We don't want it closed.....just secured !!

Ok, well no Republican president has secured the border either.

 

[moreluck]

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

And yet no Republic president has closed it.

We don't want it closed.....just secured !!

Thats right!

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

We don't want it closed.....just secured !!

Thats right!

You'd think Bush would have done this in his 8 years. Kind of makes you wonder if that's what the people running your party really want.

It's definitely not gonna happen under Obama. I guess you guys could try in two years. Good luck.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

You'd think Bush would have done this in his 8 years. Kind of makes you wonder if that's what the people running your party really want.

It's definitely not gonna happen under Obama. I guess you guys could try in two years. Good luck.

It will take both chambers and the pen of whatever POTUS we have at the time to secure the border. Unless Texas, Arizona, and Cali want to act alone. It shouldn't ever be a party issue. National security should be bi-partisan. It truly is sad that it's not.I don't care who does it or who hasn't done it in the past. It just needs to be done and done soon.