Immigration
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oldngray
nowhere special
No, they were not illegal. What country were they invading and what immigration laws did they violate?
MAKAVELI
Well-Known Member
You do know each native American tribe is its own sovereign nation? That's hundreds of countries that were invaded illegally by Europeans in the land we now call the United States of America.
You must be kidding or completely uninformed. That kind of legislation will be stalled by any of a number of senators and will never get to Obama.
Passing comprehensive reform solves the problem.
oldngray
nowhere special
You do know each native American tribe is its own sovereign nation? That's hundreds of countries that were invaded illegally by Europeans in the land we now call the United States of America.
You evaded my question? What laws did they break? They just followed the same procedure the Native Americans did and took the land away from a weaker opponent. The Native American tribes constantly fought and killed each other and land was theirs only as long as they could hold it.
rod
Retired 23 years
All he needs is one of those fake tear drops under one eye to go along with his argument. His great grandparents lost the war -- get over it----as is said "to the victors go the spoils".
moreluck
golden ticket member
Here, today, in the present time......this is not the wayback machine, Sherman.You do know each native American tribe is its own sovereign nation? That's hundreds of countries that were invaded illegally by Europeans in the land we now call the United States of America.
rod
Retired 23 years
As far as ISIS goes its yet to be determined who the "victors" will be (although after thousands of years of fighting it should tell us something-------like get out or wipe them off the map--no in between). I'm not seeing how you compare the other stuff to illegal immigration.
Operational needs
Virescit Vulnere Virtus
I'm thinking we would have better success if we sent a group of far left leaning Californians (my sister included) to the debate. ISIS would be so frustrated talking to them, they would blow their own brains out.
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Operational needs
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And that has ANYTHING to do with my point how?
As oldandgray said, the Europeans did exactly as the Tribes did before them. And this has gone on, on every continent on the globe, since the beginning of Man. That argument is weak in the CURRENT day immigration argument.
You can come up with something better, Smart guy.
brett636
Well-Known Member
They broke the law to get here, and the truth is we don't know who they are. Sure some may be working a regular job, but others may have more nefarious intentions and not knowing what those are and who they are means they shouldn't be allowed to automatically stay here. Truth be told this isn't about bringing these people out of the shadows, this is about bringing on more Democrat voters which is the real goal with this nonsense.
brett636
Well-Known Member
Hey look at all these good roofers and landscapers that now get to stay here! It no longer matters if they kill you or someone you know driving drunk, molest your child, or illegally possess a firearm they are here to stay!
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/a...ot-top-deportation-priorities/article/2556517
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/a...ot-top-deportation-priorities/article/2556517
Sportello
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Nice choice of a non-partisan source to give a slanted view of a complex subject.
Sportello
Well-Known Member
That is not at all what the DHS policy states at all. I'm sure an intelligent commenter, such as yourself, read the DHS memo. If you did, it clearly states that those people should be removed, unless they qualify for asylum under OUR laws.
Living in constant fear must be horrible.
