In the end, who wins??? And at what cost?

[Mplayers2006]

Didn’t they just do that with Surepost..?

A couple of years ago… $ 25 dollar surcharge on packages over 50 lbs…

A large package surcharge of over 100 dollars…

Raising shipping rates annually 6 percent…

Fedex and the Post Office were raising their rates also, part of the course. Nothing new…

I know that, they mark it up every year or so. I never stated it was not a practice, I only stated if they could increase the price more than what they’re currently increased to, then they would had done that already.

UPS can only increase cost by what the market would allow. For example, if the same amount of customers who pay $30 to ship a package is willing to pay $50 to ship the same size package. Then you already know what the company is going to do. However, if the customer was unlikely to pay 50 then that could cause disruption in volume which UPS is not going to wage their bets to make somebody happy.

The solution for paying for your wants and needs, contract after contract, is not in the form of raising price, but forcing the company to better control their operating cost.

 

[anonymous23456]

UPS going into the food business…?

UPS should go into the food truck business and all RPCDs will start selling food at FedEx/Amazon facilities. RPCD wage will go down, but you will get discounts on hotdog and soda.

 

[Griller]

Could you start a delivery company with a bicycle and grow it into a 100 billion dollar business in a century? What makes you entitled to that profit other than the amount of labor you agreed to and willingly sold to said company?

We know are worth, so does ups. They are just trying to get the best deal for them and vice versa for us. Could you organize 340,000 workers together and form a union??? Know your place before you tell others

 

[Griller]

We know are worth, so does ups. They are just trying to get the best deal for them and vice versa for us. Could you organize 340,000 workers together and form a union??? Know your place before you tell others

 

[ThePackageDeli]

You have the absolute worst ideas.

At least they're original.

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

At least they're original.

Doesn't mean good. Like stanced cars

 

[Karma...]

a good strike will go a long way in right sizing the company as well as the teamsters......then we both win and build right on....

 

[ThePackageDeli]

Doesn't mean good. Like stanced cars

Stanced cars! Haha. I agree.

 

[moldsporh]

The solution for paying for your wants and needs, contract after contract, is not in the form of raising price, but forcing the company to better control their operating cost.

^^This^^

Is a big part.


Somebody else here can crunch these numbers better than me...but if I'm not mistaken, this is a rough guess...

Hypothetical situation, If every hourlie made $5 per hour more out of the gate, that would equate to roughly $3.5-4 billion per year, which is almost $1B per quarter.....and UPS is profiting roughly $2.5-3.5B per quarter.

That's a large chunk of profit per quarter. So this doesn't happen overnight with a rate increase, it has to be balanced with operating costs.

 

[MostHelpNeeded]

^^This^^

Is a big part.


Somebody else here can crunch these numbers better than me...but if I'm not mistaken, this is a rough guess...

Hypothetical situation, If every hourlie made $5 per hour more out of the gate, that would equate to roughly $3.5-4 billion per year, which is almost $1B per quarter.....and UPS is profiting roughly $2.5-3.5B per quarter.

That's a large chunk of profit per quarter. So this doesn't happen overnight with a rate increase, it has to be balanced with operating costs.

Or, they can spend 1B less per quarter on stock buybacks and keep their profit. Overnight.

 

[DELACROIX]

^^This^^

Is a big part.


Somebody else here can crunch these numbers better than me...but if I'm not mistaken, this is a rough guess...

Hypothetical situation, If every hourlie made $5 per hour more out of the gate, that would equate to roughly $3.5-4 billion per year, which is almost $1B per quarter.....and UPS is profiting roughly $2.5-3.5B per quarter.

That's a large chunk of profit per quarter. So this doesn't happen overnight with a rate increase, it has to be balanced with operating costs.

Goes back to eliminating management…

Remember Corporate at the beginning of this year is saving about a billion and one half annually by eliminating further funding into their own pension trusts.

 

[Trucker Clock]

^^This^^

Is a big part.


Somebody else here can crunch these numbers better than me...but if I'm not mistaken, this is a rough guess...

Hypothetical situation, If every hourlie made $5 per hour more out of the gate, that would equate to roughly $3.5-4 billion per year, which is almost $1B per quarter.....and UPS is profiting roughly $2.5-3.5B per quarter.

That's a large chunk of profit per quarter. So this doesn't happen overnight with a rate increase, it has to be balanced with operating costs.

UPS delivers over 6 billion packages per year. They typically raise their rates 4-6% per year.

What’s the average cost to ship a package? Maybe $15-$20?

That would be an extra $6-$7B per year or $1.5-$1.75B per quarter.

That covers the $5 immediate raise for the first year. UPS then continues to make that same extra $1.5-$1.75B per quarter while maybe only giving us a $1 or $2 raise in subsequent years. Plenty of money to cover increased operating costs and stock buybacks.

 

[I GOT ONE MORE]

UPS delivers over 6 billion packages per year. They typically raise their rates 4-6% per year.

What’s the average cost to ship a package? Maybe $15-$20?

That would be an extra $6-$7B per year or $1.5-$1.75B per quarter.

That covers the $5 immediate raise for the first year. UPS then continues to make that same extra $1.5-$1.75B per quarter while maybe only giving us a $1 or $2 raise in subsequent years. Plenty of money to cover increased operating costs and stock buybacks.

When was the last time you shipped something UPS?

 

[ManInBrown]

UPS delivers over 6 billion packages per year. They typically raise their rates 4-6% per year.

What’s the average cost to ship a package? Maybe $15-$20?

That would be an extra $6-$7B per year or $1.5-$1.75B per quarter.

That covers the $5 immediate raise for the first year. UPS then continues to make that same extra $1.5-$1.75B per quarter while maybe only giving us a $1 or $2 raise in subsequent years. Plenty of money to cover increased operating costs and stock buybacks.

$15-$20? Not even close. Way more. Maybe when you factor in all the big companies that get discounts but for the average person to ship a UPS package. $40-$50 easy. Sent something about six months ago NDA and it was $65. And the slower alternative wasn’t like $15. Don’t remember the exact amount but it was definitely over $35.

 

[Thebrownblob]

When was the last time you shipped something UPS?

Last week, 8 pound package, $18.97 ground at the UPS store, seems pretty reasonable to me

 

[Trucker Clock]

When was the last time you shipped something UPS?

UPS gets most of their revenue from businesses shipping packages, not from you and me. And the bigger shippers get huge discounts.

$15-$20? Not even close. Way more. Maybe when you factor in all the big companies that get discounts but for the average person to ship a UPS package. $40-$50 easy. Sent something about six months ago NDA and it was $65. And the slower alternative wasn’t like $15. Don’t remember the exact amount but it was definitely over $35.

I assumed average. The average weight and price for the 6 billion packages, factoring in the huge discounts for big shippers.

And yes, I'm sure I'm on the low side. More evidence to support how little raising wages will affect bottom line.

Last week, 8 pound package, $18.97 ground at the UPS store, seems pretty reasonable to me

And that business shipper with their discount, most of the Company's revenue, would probably pay $10 for that same package.

 

[RetiredDriver]

If you want apiece of UPS’s profit, buy stock. You are just unskilled labor and are paid well for your labor.

I was a 30 year driver and learned that my first year.

 

[UnionStrong]

$15-$20? Not even close. Way more. Maybe when you factor in all the big companies that get discounts but for the average person to ship a UPS package. $40-$50 easy. Sent something about six months ago NDA and it was $65. And the slower alternative wasn’t like $15. Don’t remember the exact amount but it was definitely over $35.

I sent a form across country in an envelope, UPS ground, 15 friggin dollars. I was shocked.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

If you want apiece of UPS’s profit, buy stock. You are just unskilled labor and are paid well for your labor.

I was a 30 year driver and learned that my first year.

Gotta love the new accounts here during contract time telling everyone they’re handsomely compensated…

But sure. You’re a retired hourly…

 

[RetiredDriver]

Gotta love the new accounts here during contract time telling everyone they’re handsomely compensated…

But sure. You’re a retired hourly…

You can believe whatever you want to believe. I believe you don’t know what you’re talking about. I started out on paper in the 1970s before the loop came into being. I was a driver until the early 2000s when I retired I collect a modest, central states pension.

I walked the picket line in 1997. How long have you been at UPS and what position are you in?

It seems as though you are a moderator here, and maybe even the head moderator. I don’t know how that could’ve possibly happened. Your posts told me that you are a 20 something who really doesn’t have much life experience, let alone experience hit UPS.

PS. You are posting in the middle of the day, so you can’t be an RPCD. Or maybe you’re just stealing time from the company