In times like these...

I love the Mexican voters that voted for Trump and then their white neighbor calls ice on them and their cousins get deported and they wonder why that happened. That's the illogical frenzy that Trump created. Some people don't even know what they voted for.
Or, American citizens of all ethnicities disagree with the rampant illegal immigration going on. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Ok guys I'm out for awhile. It's been swell. You won't see 50k posts from me anytime soon. This seems like more of a retirement club. Carry on.
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Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
Lol most of you on here are like a cheap beer quantity over quality. I don't even know what copium is but you're definitely on something. I will check back on the politics in in a couple years and I'm pretty sure you will still be the same shhh person no matter what the weather is.

Yep we will still believe in a secure border, that we need police, that a man can’t become a woman, that children shouldn’t be able to decide what gender they are, that men dressed like women shouldn’t talk sex to our children, that riots aren’t mostly peaceful, that statues don’t scare us and that illegal aliens aren’t good for our country. But when you get back to us let us know what you have been told to believe that you would have never believed in the past.
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
I love the Mexican voters that voted for Trump and then their white neighbor calls ice on them and their cousins get deported and they wonder why that happened. That's the illogical frenzy that Trump created. Some people don't even know what they voted for.
Why do you assume their cousins are here illegally? Racist much?
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
Yep we will still believe in a secure border, that we need police, that a man can’t become a woman, that children shouldn’t be able to decide what gender they are, that men dressed like women shouldn’t talk sex to our children, that riots aren’t mostly peaceful, that statues don’t scare us and that illegal aliens aren’t good for our country. But when you get back to us let us know what you have been told to believe that you would have never believed in the past.
He doesn't believe it now. The real question is why does he and those like him support a party platform/agenda that they know to be mostly BS.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Why do you assume their cousins are here illegally? Racist much?
MFE, I mean Guitarman, and his kind, conjure up twisted logic scenarios, then attribute them as fact to Trump, as though it’s a behind-the-scenes exposé.

And they struggle to understand why anyone with an iota of rational common sense dismisses them as disconnected from reality.
 

Guitarman01

Well-Known Member
MFE, I mean Guitarman, and his kind, conjure up twisted logic scenarios, then attribute them as fact to Trump, as though it’s a behind-the-scenes exposé.

And they struggle to understand why anyone with an iota of rational common sense dismisses them as disconnected from reality.
No. Between 3 comments on this page from UPS guy, Dano and you, you were fed a narrative that isn't true. None of you speak from any real life experience on the subject I'm guessing.
Mexicans come here all the time that are technically illegal, do hard work, harder jobs than any of you have ever done in your life or would probably refuse to do, and then go back to their families in Mexico with US dollars that are a fortune for them. They stay and visit with family that are legal here. They are someone's cousin or family relation. I will add 100 percent agree any criminal should be kicked out immediately.
 
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Mutineer

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No. Between 3 comments on this page from UPS guy, Dano and you, you were fed a narrative that isn't true. None of you speak from any real life experience on the subject I'm guessing.
Mexicans come here all the time that are technically illegal, do hard work, harder jobs than any of you have ever done in your life or would probably refuse to do, and then go back to their families in Mexico with US dollars that are a fortune for them. They stay and visit with family that are legal here. They are someone's cousin or family relation. I will add 100 percent agree any criminal should be kicked out immediately.

As an observer with a front row seat at Ground Zero of the effects of decades of excessive immigration, I have some observations to share:

Immigrants aren't just here picking crops and scrubbing toilets anymore. Not by a long shot.

Once upon a time in California I remember entry level jobs, and affordable housing. As Mexican immigration increased, I couldn't help to notice that those things seemed to decrease proportionally. I watched it happen.

There is no labor shortage. When large labor intense companies (FedEx as only one example of thousands) stop treating their blue-collar workers like garbage, then you will know there is truly a labor shortage.

If you think that any savings that companies realize due to cheap immigrant labor are being passed to the consumer, I've got ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
I love the Mexican voters that voted for Trump and then their white neighbor calls ice on them and their cousins get deported and they wonder why that happened.

Mexicans come here all the time that are technically illegal, do hard work, harder jobs than any of you have ever done in your life or would probably refuse to do, and then go back to their families in Mexico with US dollars that are a fortune for them. They stay and visit with family that are legal here.
Kind of hard to follow your logic here. Are they living in fear of deportation or are they planning on going back anyway once the work season ends?
 

Guitarman01

Well-Known Member
As an observer with a front row seat at Ground Zero of the effects of decades of excessive immigration, I have some observations to share:

Immigrants aren't just here picking crops and scrubbing toilets anymore. Not by a long shot.

Once upon a time in California I remember entry level jobs, and affordable housing. As Mexican immigration increased, I couldn't help to notice that those things seemed to decrease proportionally. I watched it happen.

There is no labor shortage. When large labor intense companies (FedEx as only one example of thousands) stop treating their blue-collar workers like garbage, then you will know there is truly a labor shortage.

If you think that any savings that companies realize due to cheap immigrant labor are being passed to the consumer, I've got ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.
Companies like FedEx also aren't hiring undocumented workers. Higher wages also lead to higher prices for consumers. Everyone likes the thought of made in America they just don't want to pay for it.
Based on Trump's plan on tariffs, if anyone has been eyeing that black Friday deal on a Hisense or TCL TV you better grab it this year.

I will keep using Mexicans as an example because it's what I'm most familiar with.
They aren't stealing any glamorous jobs.
Are you kidding me? If we seriously got rid of all the undocumented workers entire sectors in the food industry would struggle, from pig and egg farms to slaughterhouses for beef.
So with these jobs they aren't exactly taking desirable homes off the market either. A lot don't even stay year round.

My point was Hispanics didn't vote for Trump because of any immigration policy, they voted on the economy period. Like a lot of people did.
If Trump doesn't come through on the economy, he is going to start to fall out of favor with a lot of voters pretty fast.
 
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