Just had masks re- implemented. Any way to be rid of them?

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
theres no honor system. you have to provide proof and im betting unknowingly theres a database that it can be verified on. Im IT, and got the vaccine, but as the process to get it unfolded i identified key indicators on how they're tracking it.

I'm sure the fascist Democrats will try to come up with a federal database soon.
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Oh i agree. But I dont think they ever imagined their employer would draw the line on their employment like this. But this will be coming to drivers too. If it doesn't Im certain there's going to be a massive uproar from corp. Do you think theres some drivers willing to walk away from 100k to avoid the shot?

“massive uproar from corporate”...exactly what could they do?

Form a Union...

If that mandate is issued for our collective bargaining employees.. it would have to go through the grievance procedures ...could drag along for years, decades... by then COVID 20 would of started...
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
they use your drivers license to validate and scan so it already exists somewhere lol.
Yes it's in my state's immunization database. The records are available to healthcare providers and schools.

Carol can't call them up to check on you buddy.
I mean, maybe you're in a state run by fascist Democrats and they allow that there.
 

PT Car Washer

Well-Known Member
“massive uproar from corporate”...exactly what could they do?

Form a Union...

If that mandate is issued for our collective bargaining employees.. it would have to go through the grievance procedures ...could drag along for years, decades... by then COVID 20 would of started...
Not if the company framed it under safety. Since most Union members have already been vaccinated, who would grieve it? A few right wing wackos?
 

DiadesSuk

Well-Known Member
Yes it's in my state's immunization database. The records are available to healthcare providers and schools.

Carol can't call them up to check on you buddy.
I mean, maybe you're in a state run by fascist Democrats and they allow that there.
If you are considering playing the "HIPAA" card, its already been cleared that your employer requesting details from you to verify youre status doesnt qualify. So Im thinking they will run your name against that DB to verify. Or fake vaccine cards are about to be a huge money maker lol.
 

BigUnionGuy

Got the T-Shirt
Oh i agree. But I dont think they ever imagined their employer would draw the line on their employment like this.

The company started "drawing the line" with a bloated management system just after the IPO.

This is just another phase....


But this will be coming to drivers too.

Says who ?

It would be subject to collective bargaining with the Union.


Don't see that happening anytime soon.

:biggrin:


If it doesn't Im certain there's going to be a massive uproar from corp.

Like protests in the street ?

I want to join the Union.... type stuff ?

:biggrin:
 

PT Car Washer

Well-Known Member
If you are considering playing the "HIPAA" card, its already been cleared that your employer requesting details from you to verify youre status doesnt qualify. So Im thinking they will run your name against that DB to verify. Or fake vaccine cards are about to be a huge money maker lol.
Or you could just go and get a free vaccination.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
If you are considering playing the "HIPAA" card, its already been cleared that your employer requesting details from you to verify youre status doesnt qualify. So Im thinking they will run your name against that DB to verify. Or fake vaccine cards are about to be a huge money maker lol.
I'm just telling you that there is no method for them to run my name against my state's database because they don't have access to it, and can't be granted access currently.

Wouldn't surprise me if that changes.
 

DiadesSuk

Well-Known Member
The company started "drawing the line" with a bloated management system just after the IPO.

This is just another phase....




Says who ?

It would be subject to collective bargaining with the Union.


Don't see that happening anytime soon.

:biggrin:




Like protests in the street ?

I want to join the Union.... type stuff ?

:biggrin:
lets save this conversation for a later time. I dont think its going to age well lol.
 

DiadesSuk

Well-Known Member
I'm just telling you that there is no method for them to run my name against my state's database because they don't have access to it, and can't be granted access currently.

Wouldn't surprise me if that changes.
there's an FAQ that says if you lose your copy of your vaccine card the CDC has a web portal to request a replacement lol.. Thats a start lol.
 

DiadesSuk

Well-Known Member
Does UPS have any idea how easy it is to get a high-paying job right now?

UPS isn't the King Kong of benefits or pay any more.
lol this is probably another part of Corp "Better not bigger" Let Fed policy cut more fat off the bones without UPS being directly responsible lol so they can hide behind Biden lol.
 

DiadesSuk

Well-Known Member
Yes you can request a new card for yourself.
Not sure how that helps Carol see your record though.
Im gonna look around a bit in more of the security sectors and see what others are saying. If you can check someones social for practically everything plus criminal record because you give them permission, showing your manager your vax card is giving them permission to validate it. Even the FAQ is pretty fast in shutting down the HIPAA argument lol. Literally it states that UPS cant violate Hippa by requesting your vax status oddly enough.
 
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