Bagels
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Yes, but we've been told that in the unlikely event he was needed to drive, they'd send him to one of the other centers in the building (we have three).
Laid off driver working as PT supervisor
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Yes, but we've been told that in the unlikely event he was needed to drive, they'd send him to one of the other centers in the building (we have three).
Catatonic
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I don't get it, why is this a conflict of interest?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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PT Car Washer
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A PDS that has area knowledge? Can't have that. He may do something that actually makes sense. Conflict of interest.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Like that does not happen anyway?
PT Car Washer
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Hourlies are not allowed to direct the workforce. Or other hourlies.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Who told you that?
We had two centers with a lead driver that ran a driver sort and load and dispatch.
PT Car Washer
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Coordinator maybe. But no authority to direct or discipline. Or responsibility.
Johney
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Buy I heard we can fire helpers?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Even helpers who fall on the ice and exhibit delayed signs of a possible concussion?
Ouch
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[quote Hoaxter, post: 1259914, member: 7966"]I fail to see what's the issue and how it is a grieveable condition.
Also, advise the P/T Sup to withdraw from Union so he does not owe back dues.[/quote]
The grievable offense would be that they haven't filled a driving position that was opened if he turns out to be a on car sup. A grievance should be filed to satisfy a full time position being made available. I don't get the whole union member supervisor though. He can't be a sup and in the union.
Also, advise the P/T Sup to withdraw from Union so he does not owe back dues.[/quote]
The grievable offense would be that they haven't filled a driving position that was opened if he turns out to be a on car sup. A grievance should be filed to satisfy a full time position being made available. I don't get the whole union member supervisor though. He can't be a sup and in the union.
Anonymous 10
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Grievance.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
The fulltime position was filled in April 2013 in the 1-7 ratio.
He is a laid-off driver who has the right to his friend/T Driver position once that position is put back in in seniority order. Until such time he does go into a friend/T Management position, he has a right to that job unless he is terminated from that position. Which means that the 1-7 ratio continues in it's current countdown (as long as all laid off drivers are back driving).
This happened to me coincidentally and I was laid off after Christmas and went back driving on Feb 28th.
I would assume this happens all the time in the hub buildings (as mine was).
The unusual aspect of this is that he went into a dispatch position instead of P/T sup of inside workers.
Bagels
Family Leave Fridays!!!
I should clarify: he was a 'lead' PT sup that covered all areas, so he's worked dispatch before. Each center had a PT sup supplementing the FT dispatcher. I'm guessing he's pulling dispatch since he's worked so many routes.
I'm sure Hoaxster is right. Just seems odd. Then again out of 400 drivers, only a dozen have come in the last ten years so guess I'm not use to it.
I'm sure Hoaxster is right. Just seems odd. Then again out of 400 drivers, only a dozen have come in the last ten years so guess I'm not use to it.
Anonymous 10
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It's 6to 1 old timer.
Anonymous 10
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Why do you have a picture of an old lady in lingerie?
Catatonic
Nine Lives
My bad - meant 1 in 7.
Ouch
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Hoaxster if he is brought back in the building then he displaces 2 part time employees not to return to a part time sup position. To me that would be a grievable offense. If he returns to a sup position then that would mean they would have to bid that route and that would open a full time driver position.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
I thought the driver had the option to take the layoff rather work one or two shifts.
I remember a few drivers doing that back when.
Where the driver works while laid off is non of the Unions business I would think.
Ouch
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uote="Hoaxster, post: 1260299, member: 7966"]I thought the driver had the option to take the layoff rather work one or two shifts.
I remember a few drivers doing that back when.
Where the driver works while laid off is non of the Unions business I would think.[/quote]
It would become the union members business when the driver went back to the sup position. The driver does have the choice of layoff or displacing 2 part timers. The driver doesn't have to work 2 shifts. One shift would keep his/her benefits active. If the driver comes off the road after accepting a full time driver position he stay hourly even in the building. If he is promoted to oncar sup then that opens that route for bid. He/she has to be replaced with the 1 for 6 hires. The full time driver cant come off the road to an inside part time sup position. He/she either takes the layoff or displaces 2 part time positions. That's were the contract violation comes in to play.
I remember a few drivers doing that back when.
Where the driver works while laid off is non of the Unions business I would think.[/quote]
It would become the union members business when the driver went back to the sup position. The driver does have the choice of layoff or displacing 2 part timers. The driver doesn't have to work 2 shifts. One shift would keep his/her benefits active. If the driver comes off the road after accepting a full time driver position he stay hourly even in the building. If he is promoted to oncar sup then that opens that route for bid. He/she has to be replaced with the 1 for 6 hires. The full time driver cant come off the road to an inside part time sup position. He/she either takes the layoff or displaces 2 part time positions. That's were the contract violation comes in to play.
