Let’s say the company wants to discipline for not drinking 3 gallons of water, what are you going to do ? (On Topic Only)

[TheBrownNote]

FFS, another one?

 

[Fido]

We’ve actually had this happen before.
Driver was being followed and seen going into a gas station and not clocking out to go piss.
We don’t have to clock out to go to the bathroom.
Driver constantly files harassment on them now.

 

[100%]

The following question was asked in another thread and I thought it might make for interesting discussion:

So the company deems one of your members did not drink 3 gallons of water and they initiated progressive discipline on him or her.


As a steward, how would you handle this attempt to discipline your member?

As a rank and file member how would you expect your shop steward to handle this?

I’d fall out sick puking from drinking too much water and sue them.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Health Benefits to Drinking More Water

What to know about this hydration trend

health.clevelandclinic.org

 

[Lineandinitial]

Integrity’s role model

 

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As a steward, how would you handle this attempt to discipline your member?

To point out everybody is different. 3 gallons might not be enough for some people, but too much for others. I would also inquire as to how management knows they didn't drink 3 gallons.

 

[Integrity]

Integrity’s role model

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Joe Biden is not my role model.

 

[Integrity]

Joe Biden is not my role model.

I must also note that although he is not my role model, I do like how his administration took action on Sept 20, 2021by mobilizing to protect workers from extreme heat. I believe it is already going a long way to make UPS take this responsibility seriously.

It pretty much explains the serious focus that OSHA is taking towards protecting UPS and other workers from this recognized job hazard.

Read for yourself:

FACT SHEET: Biden Administration Mobilizes to Protect Workers and Communities from Extreme Heat - The White House

 

[Lineandinitial]

Joe Biden is not my role model.

He’s your Lord & Master

 

[Integrity]

Failure to follow methods and procedures. Cool solutions is a procedure. Just saying.

What exactly are you saying?

 

[Integrity]

Agreed. tell @Integrity to leave it alone. The answer is crystal clear no Steward with his merit would allow the member to be disciplined. He would have them file the appropriate grievance and move on. It would go absolutely nowhere if you file.

In my local it has not been a practice to file grievances over discipline.

Sometimes harassment grievances are submitted, but not often.

In my local rebuttals to discipline are written and submitted.

We work very diligently during the entire progressive discipline process to have the company withdraw the attempt to discipline.

 

[Integrity]

I’d fall out sick puking from drinking too much water and sue them.

Let me know how that works for you.

 

[Integrity]

To point out everybody is different. 3 gallons might not be enough for some people, but too much for others. I would also inquire as to how management knows they didn't drink 3 gallons.

 

[Sacrificial Lamb]

Do you have anything to develop the original post?

 

[Sacrificial Lamb]

We’ve actually had this happen before.
Driver was being followed and seen going into a gas station and not clocking out to go piss.
We don’t have to clock out to go to the bathroom.
Driver constantly files harassment on them now.

Was he a runner before?

 

[Fido]

Was he a runner before?

No

 

[Commercial Inside Release]

Too much water, can kill you.
This case resulted in a $16.5M settlement.

 

[Lineandinitial]

Let me know how that works for you.

Let me know how this works for you.

Take a Mental Health Test

screening.mhanational.org

 

[Integrity]

Let me know how this works for you.

Take a Mental Health Test

screening.mhanational.org

Off topic.

Anything to advance the topic of this discussion?

 

[Lineandinitial]

Off topic.

Anything to advance the topic of this discussion?

Actually, the topic is your mental health. Haven’t you been following along?