DriveInDriveOut
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I do not believe parents have the right to abuse their children. Simple stuff my very good friend.
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Except it's not child abuse.
Thebrownblob
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Black, trans women? How many of them are there like 50.People may or may not have jumped the gun on motive in this murder but you have to understand that the murder rate for our fellow Black transgender Americans is much higher and growing as a share of all murders. It's understandable that people have a knee-jerk reaction although I do agree that we should all pump the brakes on motive.
Here's a related news story about the violence and murder rate towards the transgender community:
Murders of trans people nearly doubled over past 4 years, and Black trans women are most at risk, report finds
The Everytown for Gun Safety report found that 73% of transgender murder victims were killed with a gun.www.cbsnews.com
Thebrownblob
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Let’s break this group down even further…. how about black trans women named Mike, who like 80s hip-hop, their eggs over easy, their toast, lightly buttered, and their favorite color is green. What’s the murder rate for that group?People may or may not have jumped the gun on motive in this murder but you have to understand that the murder rate for our fellow Black transgender Americans is much higher and growing as a share of all murders. It's understandable that people have a knee-jerk reaction although I do agree that we should all pump the brakes on motive.
Here's a related news story about the violence and murder rate towards the transgender community:
Murders of trans people nearly doubled over past 4 years, and Black trans women are most at risk, report finds
The Everytown for Gun Safety report found that 73% of transgender murder victims were killed with a gun.
DriveInDriveOut
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Yes it is.
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
Catering to the whims of children is abuse.
Pure and simple.
If you doubt it, look at the results we are now experiencing.
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Easy for you to joke about murder.
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So we cut out all gender-affirming care and the trans kids grow up completely miserable and not in sync with their true selves. One could argue that that’s child abuse.
1% of patients who transition regret it. We should trust families to make their own decisions over their health. I thought that’s what republicans used to think. Get government out of peoples’ homes and personal decisions.
MORS HOSTIBUS
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sailfish
Master of Karate and Friendship for Everyone
They couldn't accept themselves in the first place. If they did they wouldn't need to be trans. But why should anyone "accept" bending over backwards to cater to their delusions? Why should anyone "accept" grooming minors? Right to live as they see fit? What does that even mean?
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It means they're not hurting anyone else by deciding to come out as their true selves. You can't handle that. Some might call that being a snowflake. But by all means, go to a library reading with your AR-15 if it makes you feel like more of a man.
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
I, for one, don’t wish to live in Bizarro World, so I will continue to promote normalcy as I know it.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Key: "to come out as their true selves"
Your meaning: If you have a penis you are not "truly" a male if you think you are a female.
If you have a vagina you are not"truly" a female if you think your a male.
Necessary conclusion: Mental problems.
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DriveInDriveOut
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That's very Orwellian double speak.
Gender affirming care would be getting these kids psychological counseling to help them affirm their actual gender, not lying to them that they can be something they're not.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
More double speak.
Their true sex is the one they were born with.
A man will never be a woman.
It's just delusion to pretend he can.
DriveInDriveOut
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Preventing child abuse is a job the government should be doing. We'd be happy to do it instead, but I guarantee you won't like the punishment we give to these child abusers.
sailfish
Master of Karate and Friendship for Everyone
Hope the horses already ate because you must've bought out all the straw. I'm going to break down your
ty argument sentence by sentence so here we go. And as a disclaimer, my usage of words such as "they" will refer to the current community/movement as whole, not any particular individuals because it would obviously be too broad of a brush to say this is everybody.This statement suggests their only goal is to announce that they are trans. Which if that truly was the case, I don't think anyone would even care. But we both know that's far from what you're talking about because why else would would anyone think denying individuals from going into opposite sex changing areas and giving permanently lifechanging and damaging surgeries and hormonal treatments to children are an "attack"? They want to drag everyone in to kowtow to all this lunacy.
Can't handle what? Like I said. This obviously isn't about people simply stating they're a different gender. I don't have any kids of my own and couldn't give a
about women's sports so I have no dog in this fight whatsoever but it doesn't mean I'm not going to openly criticize and laugh at this clown world.
And I'll let you in on another tidbit of info. I'm probably one of the few if not only individuals on this site who has knowingly and willingly had sexual relations with an individual who would likely be considered "trans" in the current year. So obviously I see bigger issues at hand than what you are trying to claim I actually am.That's so 2010.
Now you're implying I emphasize with and condone intentionally threatening or intimidating trans individuals who were simply minding their own business. I'm not going to bother seeking out that news story so for the sake of this argument I'm just going to take your word that that's exactly what happened. In which case no, I do not encourage or condone it. And the individuals who did so should be charged as such. Then again, we live in this bass-akwards bizzarro clown world where guys twerking their thonged asses in kids faces is acceptable so maybe there was a reason they went to library brandishing ARs. I don't know. But like I said, we'll go with the former for the sake of argument.
Where are you getting your numbers? And why would anyone promote changing the sex of an immature child based on that child's feelings? If that child truly feels that way he can make a decision as an adult as to whether he wants to alter his physiology to conform with how he feels he is inside. What often happens with a child is he is influenced by others to think certain things and what we often have today is grown adults trying to influence children without the parents of the child aware that is happening. So best bet is let that child at least reach 18 and make a decision for himself.
I like what Bill Maher said recently. He said when he was 10 he wanted to be a pirate. It was a good thing they didn't let him get surgery or he'd have a peg leg and a patch over a missing eye. Silly as that sounds you can't undo permanent alterations made on the decision of a child who may see things a good deal differently as an adult.
Thebrownblob
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Looks to me like a large majority of them commit suicide. Sad and unfortunate. I thought they were chasing the dream and being happy?
“Research has shown that experiences of victimization are related to low well-being, including suicide thoughts and attempts”
Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime
williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu
“Research has shown that experiences of victimization are related to low well-being, including suicide thoughts and attempts”
actually, if you look a little deeper is mostly suicide. Seems they’re not so happy, who knew?