LU 177 "selective" Seniority.

[Coldworld]

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This is being passed around. Big movement happen...

So would those who are already on the list be grandfathered in or would everybody be shuffled around?,,

 

[East coast navy]

So would those who are already on the list be grandfathered in or would everybody be shuffled around?,,

Everyone that has and will transfer out side of there classification goes to their rightful spot of Full time company seniority.

 

[Whatbrownwontdoforyou]

Everyone that has and will transfer out side of there classification goes to their rightful spot of Full time company seniority.

Including part timers?????so back to my original question what has changed in local 177 since the members were booing the one list guys at the general membership meeting?

 

[rama'nfeeders]

In 93 they sued for seniority to go with vacations. When the classification was introduced that was an agreement from the company and the Union when the company split into 3 districts. The Union did it this way to protect the members. There's your answer!!! For someone who's been here longer than me you should be ashamed of yourself for one not knowing and twould for misleading people on your agenda. You are only out for yourself yoy don't give a rats bass about anyone except yourself. People come into Feeders late and want leap frog other Union members because Feeders didn't work for them 10 years ago, but now it does. I don't think so!!!!

 

[East coast navy]

Including part timers?????so back to my original question what has changed in local 177 since the members were booing the one list guys at the general membership meeting?

Part timers are being asked to come foward and fight with us... We have been going around with a bldg to bldg campaign to see who will fight with us and part timers could care less... They don't vote and never will!

In 93 they sued for seniority to go with vacations. When the classification was introduced that was an agreement from the company and the Union when the company split into 3 districts. The Union did it this way to protect the members. There's your answer!!! For someone who's been here longer than me you should be ashamed of yourself for one not knowing and twould for misleading people on your agenda. You are only out for yourself yoy don't give a rats bass about anyone except yourself. People come into Feeders late and want leap frog other Union members because Feeders didn't work for them 10 years ago, but now it does. I don't think so!!!!

Once again!! Removing and creating jobs, centers, divisions, bldgs or district has nothing to do with Seniority! The company can do this for the needs of the company.. It's in the contract... The union told the company "IF YOU DO THIS, IT HAS TO NOTHING TO DO WITH SENIORITY"

As for the time on the clock... I think you have more company time then me.. What you have only 20 years company time?

 

[UnconTROLLed]

I cannot wrap my mind around a 25 year package car driver bidding feeders, and having less seniority than a 2 year new-hire.

 

[govols019]

You are only out for yourself yoy don't give a rats bass about anyone except yourself.

That's the impression I get as well.

 

[By The Book]

Part timers are being asked to come foward and fight with us... We have been going around with a bldg to bldg campaign to see who will fight with us and part timers could care less... They don't vote and never will!





Once again!! Removing and creating jobs, centers, divisions, bldgs or district has nothing to do with Seniority! The company can do this for the needs of the company.. It's in the contract... The union told the company "IF YOU DO THIS, IT HAS TO NOTHING TO DO WITH SENIORITY"

As for the time on the clock... I think you have more company time then me.. What you have only 20 years company time?

Is this change you are seeking to be inclusive of all classifications? PT to FT, FT to Feeders, FT driver transfers to others buildings? I don't think the top union guys will take it on, it's too much work. IMO

 

[By The Book]

I cannot wrap my mind around a 25 year package car driver bidding feeders, and having less seniority than a 2 year new-hire.

It happens all the time when drivers transfer to other buildings.

 

[East coast navy]

That's the impression I get as well.

I bet the same thing was said when they changed it to classification seniority formula ..

 

[East coast navy]

Is this change you are seeking to be inclusive of all classifications? PT to FT, FT to Feeders, FT driver transfers to others buildings? I don't think the top union guys will take it on, it's too much work. IMO

I think they don't have the a choice if we have the #... Which we do...

 

[East coast navy]

It happens all the time when drivers transfer to other buildings.

Where is this?

 

[oldupsman]

It happens all the time when drivers transfer to other buildings.

Where is this?

I've got the same question. Doesn't happen in my local. We have 2 different buildings. Seniority is seniority
no matter which building you go to or package or feeder. You dove tail in everywhere. Which is the way it
should be.

 

[MakeItFair]

In 93 they sued for seniority to go with vacations. When the classification was introduced that was an agreement from the company and the Union when the company split into 3 districts. The Union did it this way to protect the members. There's your answer!!! For someone who's been here longer than me you should be ashamed of yourself for one not knowing and twould for misleading people on your agenda. You are only out for yourself yoy don't give a rats bass about anyone except yourself. People come into Feeders late and want leap frog other Union members because Feeders didn't work for them 10 years ago, but now it does. I don't think so!!!!

So, during those 10 years, said driver didn't accrue any seniority? And actually, it seems Terry does give a K about a lot more than just himself. Every ups'er with cold hard company seniority, that has to play the semantics this seniority that seniority this classification that classification.

 

[East coast navy]

In 93 they sued for seniority to go with vacations. When the classification was introduced that was an agreement from the company and the Union when the company split into 3 districts. The Union did it this way to protect the members. There's your answer!!! For someone who's been here longer than me you should be ashamed of yourself for one not knowing and twould for misleading people on your agenda. You are only out for yourself yoy don't give a rats bass about anyone except yourself. People come into Feeders late and want leap frog other Union members because Feeders didn't work for them 10 years ago, but now it does. I don't think so!!!!

Having 3 districts in the local has nothing to do with seniority. The company can collapse and create districts when ever they want. It's in the contract... NOTHING TO DO WITH SENIORITY!!

 

[Indecisi0n]

I speak to feeder guys and from what I understand. A guy with 6 months of feeder time (and company time) can bump a new feeder driver transfer that has 20 years with the company.

I guess it goes both ways.

 

[East coast navy]

I speak to feeder guys and from what I understand. A guy with 6 months of feeder time (and company time) can bump a new feeder driver transfer that has 20 years with the company.

I guess it goes both ways.

The main question is, is that what the members want?

 

[Wally]

What's going on with one list in the 177? Any talk about it kind of died.

 

[jarman]

Pt feeder driver here. Jacksonville,fl. Southerm region. I just filled a grievance in the feeder department for full-timers deciding they want to come up to feeders now and jumping me(the list has been up for 3 years)and they are now opening the positionto pt employees. In my region the handbook says (article 48 secton 7 pg 199). "New feeder openings will be filled from the list of qualified employees in the order in which the employee qualifies as a tractor-trailer driver."

 

[Covemastah]

But if a full time pkg driver has more seniority Ft than you , and has a CDL , then he goes first , no matter if he waited 10-25 years , that's they way it is in N.E st least !