Management becoming drivers

[laffter]

One person I spoke to said he/she heard from the HR guy that any sup/management person hired off the street (not in-house) cannot ever become a driver. Basically, only if you graduate into a management position from a union position can you ever become a union driver.

Is there any truth to this? It doesn't apply to me, but I am curious nonetheless.

 

[By The Book]

One person I spoke to said he/she heard from the HR guy that any sup/management person hired off the street (not in-house) cannot ever become a driver. Basically, only if you graduate into a management position from a union position can you ever become a union driver.

Is there any truth to this? It doesn't apply to me, but I am curious nonetheless.

That's the norm here, and has been that way as long as I've been at ups.

 

[Catatonic]

One person I spoke to said he/she heard from the HR guy that any sup/management person hired off the street (not in-house) cannot ever become a driver. Basically, only if you graduate into a management position from a union position can you ever become a union driver.

Is there any truth to this? It doesn't apply to me, but I am curious nonetheless.

As long as you are referring to Full-time management ... that is the case.

 

[Atlantic Canadian Walker]

Another reason why I did some homework before signing up. I hear terrible things bout goin mgmt.

 

[Pooter]

Never say never. Management can pull off some amazing things out their ass.

 

[ArcherUTR]

If that's true across the country, I feel fortunate. I declined a part time supervisor position from the get-go. I didn't know what I was getting myself into and I didn't feel comfortable telling people how to do their job without first mastering the job myself.

I later did about 6 months of part time supervisor before going driving.

 

[Bottom rung]

We have one in my building, almost two but he didn't have the patience to wait two more months. Both started in management.

 

[laffter]

I'm not referring to full time management, specifically. We have a new part time sup (outside hire) who is under the impression she will never be able to drive or hold any union position. My friend confirmed this based on his/her conversation with the HR guy. However, we had an HR guy over recent periods who is now a driver. According to someone I spoke to, he "may" (not fact) have been hired at UPS as an HR rep. So, someone is wrong. Or, exceptions can be made.

 

[BigBeef42]

In my hub last month a pt supe went ft driving with 3 years in. He intentionally became a supe so he could cut in line.

Regular wait time for a ft spot - for a pt union member - is 10-11 years in my building.

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[Work right slow and safe]

They call it 1 for 5 here for every 5 drivers they hire they can get one person off the street or a supervisor. They make sure they use this rule in my building cheap workers now that it takes 4 years for top pay and cant go 9.5 for 4. Lots of money saved by not hiring the cover drivers that will go right to top pay.

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[Overpaid Union Thug]

One person I spoke to said he/she heard from the HR guy that any sup/management person hired off the street (not in-house) cannot ever become a driver. Basically, only if you graduate into a management position from a union position can you ever become a union driver.

Is there any truth to this? It doesn't apply to me, but I am curious nonetheless.

It's whatever the decision makers want at that time. With management the rules tend to bend, break, and change as the seasons do. I see no logic in not letting her become a driver but letting someone from literally off the street drive. But we have to remember who we are talking about here.

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