Marking another fatality....

[Johney]

Individuals have to involve OSHA by filing complaints, in other words employees have a right to go to them, not wait on them.

Individuals shouldn't wait for UPS to handle safety, UPS should be given the chance through internal mechanisms designed to handle safety violations, if UPS doesn't take action then, IMO a formal complaint should be filed with OSHA.

So it is an employees responsibility?
Please explain.

 

[Integrity]

Because you’re obtuse? Perhaps?

Perhaps.

But I think not.

 

[Integrity]

Safety is everyone’s responsibility.

Providing a safe work place is the Employer's Responsibility.

I am of the position that:

It is the responsibility of each employee to follow all Employer training and methods, including safety training.

It is the Employer's responsibility to see that this happens and to correct any employee noncompliance.

 

[Integrity]

Literally day one of the mentoring packet.

The foundation of the process is personal responsibility, along with managerial commitment.

Providing a safe work place is the Employer's Responsibility.

I am of the position that:

It is the responsibility of each employee to follow all Employer training and methods, including safety training.

It is the Employer's responsibility to see that this happens and to correct any employee noncompliance.

It is that simple.

 

[Integrity]

So it is an employees responsibility?

It is an employees right to a safe workplace and it is an Employer responsibility to provide one.

Please explain.

Employee's have a right to confront a corrupt safety culture at UPS and any other corporation that fails in this area, as UPS does.

They have a right to use any means provided internally through company safety programs and complaint procedures and they also have a right to involve outside jurisdictions such as OSHA.

 

[Integrity]

Literally day one of the mentoring packet.

Arguably could be perceived and Company Safety Propaganda or the beginning of a false indoctrination.

The foundation of the process is personal responsibility, along with managerial commitment.

My position is that:

The foundation of corporate safety is Employee Rights to a safe work place and Employer's Responsibility to provide a safe work place.

IMO A corporate safety culture that has integrity recognizes both and takes both seriously.

 

[Integrity]

It’s the employers responsibility to provide the ability to have a safe work environment.

It is the employers responsibility to prove a safe workplace. You need to check the OSHA law on this.

It’s the employees responsibility to follow those safe work methods and to hold the company accountable for the safe work methods that they put in place and try to ignore most of the time when it suits them.

It is the employee's right to follow safe work methods and to hold the company accountable when the company or anyone in the company tries to get you to not follow safe work methods.

IMO

It is also the employee's right to not follow safe work methods, IMO this is wrong, but it is every employees right to do the wrong thing and risk the consequences.

It is the employers responsibility to discharge any employee who refuses to follow company safety training.

Simple. It’s a duel responsibility. Which is why we have management and employee safety committees. Over seeing one another in a trust but verify manner.

IMHO
Safety Committees are part of the agreed upon internal mechanisms for employees to participate in exercising their rights to a safe work place and in also holding the Company accountable to their responsibility to provide one.

 

[Integrity]

The actual goal of this thread for you Mr. Quad was to say see I told you so.

Just so you name is not Mr. Quad it is @quad decade guy.

I don't know where you got this information but it seems to me that he clearly stated the goal of this thread when he started it.

You may want to check the goals for some of the other posters on this thread. IMO some of the posters might need to look at why they act the way they do.

Unfortunately for you if you have the same attitude at work as you do here you will not ever effectively Drive change because no one will listen to you or take you seriously.

My experience has been that often, serious talk at work is taken similarly as it is on the BC.

Not seriously.

That's fine to each his own.

 

[Integrity]

100% correct.

IMO,
0% Correct.

 

[Integrity]

The employer can’t be everywhere.

Not sure what this means.

Without the employee participation component it can’t workp.

IMO Employee participation is a right.

Thanks for playing.

You are most welcome.

 

[Integrity]

That’s exactly right now if you excuse me mr. integrity

It is Integrity, not Mr. Integrity

I’m headed to work I have a safety committee meeting,

Be safe.

Come back and start a thread on the BC about some of the concerns if you want.

I suspect you won't, just sayin.

 

[UnionStrong]

Not sure what this means.

IMO Employee participation is a right.

You are most welcome.

And you’re still wrong.

 

[UnionStrong]

IMO,
0% Correct.

Wrong

 

[UnionStrong]

Providing a safe work place is the Employer's Responsibility.

I am of the position that:

It is the responsibility of each employee to follow all Employer training and methods, including safety training.

It is the Employer's responsibility to see that this happens and to correct any employee noncompliance.

It is that simple.

Wrong

 

[UnionStrong]

IMO I am not.

Yes you are

 

[UnionStrong]

Perhaps.

But I think not.

I think so

 

[UnionStrong]

IMO

A poster and a PCM does not make a safe workplace. Neither does a slogan, a Nutri Grain bar or ringing a bell.

The best course to a quality safety culture in UPS would be for UPS to take their legal, ethical, and moral responsibility to provide a safe workplace seriously.

Then why are there employee safety committees? Lol Your wrong again.

 

[Integrity]

And you’re still wrong.

IMHO I am not wrong.

 

[Integrity]

Wrong

IMHO I am not wrong

 

[Integrity]

Wrong

IMHO I am not wrong.