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Mutineer

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a century of eugenics via war.

This notion was expressed by somebody (don't remember who) after the end of WW1.

He wrote something to the effect that all the young men physically fit and mentally competent were sent off to die.

The rejected men (who were rejected or disqualified due to mental and physical defects) are who survived to re-populate.

And that's how Idiocracy is created.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
I believe in extensive background checks and thorough psychological screening of each person before a firearm purchase permit is issued.

Unfortunately I also believe that it has to be a federal standard and not in the hands of the state government.
There are people in this world that are extremely mentally ill, but without delusions. They know how to tell people what they want to hear while living a completely different fantasy world in their own heads. You’re never going to screen out the personality disorders that are cold hearted and violent. They can even hide that :censored2: from their families, with only little bursts of rage from time to time like anyone else. Most psychopaths and sociopaths are only diagnosed after some catastrophic self destruction that lands them in a court room on serious charges.
A lot of mental health evaluations only work on people that suffer from :censored2: like schizophrenia or manic depression, stuff that ruins their day to day life and they are honest about with a professional. It requires the patient to work alongside the professional.
 

olroadbeech

Happy Verified UPSer
DAMNIT! You are, far and away, thee MOST boring person ever created! Your posts would make a dead person want to commit suicide.
Is there some sort of spray for people like you?
You can click on his and my avatar and then select ignore function.

easy peasy

when people attack other people they are only hurting themselves ( I am guilty of this as well )
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
That would be true if said war killed everyone. You send almost 3 million to fight in Vietnam and 50,000 get killed it doesn't have any significant effect on how many will be willing to fight in the future. Many who got killed probably had no desire to be there to begin with. The closest we've had to what you claimed was the Civil War. A generation of young men substantially killed and wounded.

You don't need to kill off an entire generation when you can pick off tens of thousands every generation for over a hundred years. If you think that doesn't have a significant impact on the gene pool you would need to rethink that.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
I would submit that the folks who are mentally ill are the architects, builders, tradesmen, and useful idiots of the "new hellish nightmare" that we are on the brink of realizing.

And the rest of us are the ones they would want to sterilize, if they can't kill us. It's a two way street.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
This notion was expressed by somebody (don't remember who) after the end of WW1.

He wrote something to the effect that all the young men physically fit and mentally competent were sent off to die.

The rejected men (who were rejected or disqualified due to mental and physical defects) are who survived to re-populate.

And that's how Idiocracy is created.

It certainly hasn't helped. The ones who make it back from war are often messed up enough to be unable to adequately show their offspring how to be men.

But I have been assured that all that is ok, just as long as the fighting takes place on foreign soil.
 

vantexan

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You don't need to kill off an entire generation when you can pick off tens of thousands every generation for over a hundred years. If you think that doesn't have a significant impact on the gene pool you would need to rethink that.
How does it? We had huge European immigration after the Civil War. And until the 1970's we had the draft so many who were killed were just doing their required duty, not just the bold ones willing to volunteer. I do worry if we got into a major war if we'll have enough real men, but it's more and more a push button military anymore anyways.
 
This notion was expressed by somebody (don't remember who) after the end of WW1.

He wrote something to the effect that all the young men physically fit and mentally competent were sent off to die.

The rejected men (who were rejected or disqualified due to mental and physical defects) are who survived to re-populate.

And that's how Idiocracy is created.
I wondered how trump was ever nominated to the top of the Republican ticket.
 

Box Ox

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This notion was expressed by somebody (don't remember who) after the end of WW1.

He wrote something to the effect that all the young men physically fit and mentally competent were sent off to die.

The rejected men (who were rejected or disqualified due to mental and physical defects) are who survived to re-populate.

And that's how Idiocracy is created.
I wondered how trump was ever nominated to the top of the Republican ticket.

Wasn't exactly an exercise in intellectual rigor when Biden was nominated to the top of the Democratic ticket.
 

newfie

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How does it? We had huge European immigration after the Civil War. And until the 1970's we had the draft so many who were killed were just doing their required duty, not just the bold ones willing to volunteer. I do worry if we got into a major war if we'll have enough real men, but it's more and more a push button military anymore anyways.
use the guys with man buns and flip flops as front line conscripts. dont need to train them much since they'll die anyway.
If were lucky they'll accidently shoot a few of the enemy if not they'll shoot each other.
really does not matter if they transition or not since they're dead meat no matter what sex they assume.
cannon fodder that improves the world by their loss
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
How does it? We had huge European immigration after the Civil War. And until the 1970's we had the draft so many who were killed were just doing their required duty, not just the bold ones willing to volunteer. I do worry if we got into a major war if we'll have enough real men, but it's more and more a push button military anymore anyways.

You question how the warrior class can become nearly extinct, but then acknowledge that they have. It's not that difficult a concept.

Draftees still had to pass medical and mental standards. Had to make sure they were sending the right type off to die.
 

vantexan

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You question how the warrior class can become nearly extinct, but then acknowledge that they have. It's not that difficult a concept.

Draftees still had to pass medical and mental standards. Had to make sure they were sending the right type off to die.
"Hey feller, make a mist on this mirror. Good, you're breathing, next!" And nowhere did I say the "warrior class" is nearly extinct. Having enough real men isn't the same thing. A major WWII type war will take a lot more men than the professional military we have now. It's not that we don't have enough men, it's that as a society we've grown soft. A lot more obesity, a lot more sensitivity. But that won't keep them from being drafted if that's reinstated. Maybe an economic depression for a decade or more will toughen us up.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
"Hey feller, make a mist on this mirror. Good, you're breathing, next!" And nowhere did I say the "warrior class" is nearly extinct. Having enough real men isn't the same thing.
It sounded like you were saying that, and an extinct warrior class is close enough to the lack of "real men" for the purposes of this conversation. Tbh, warriors are just about as self-destructive a phenotype as you can get in an era of war driven economy. But, the point is that they are more likely to stand up to tyranny. The conditions are selecting for people who are smart enough to insulate themselves from tyrannical governance as possible. Everyone else is pretty much doomed.

A major WWII type war will take a lot more men than the professional military we have now. It's not that we don't have enough men, it's that as a society we've grown soft. A lot more obesity, a lot more sensitivity. But that won't keep them from being drafted if that's reinstated. Maybe an economic depression for a decade or more will toughen us up.

You know why we have more obesity and sensitivity? It's because the genes responsible for fitness and insensitivity have been thinned out of the gene pool by over a century of war. That doesn't mean they aren't still present, they just simply aren't there in the same concentrations as they would have been without over a century of nearly nonstop war.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
It sounded like you were saying that, and an extinct warrior class is close enough to the lack of "real men" for the purposes of this conversation. Tbh, warriors are just about as self-destructive a phenotype as you can get in an era of war driven economy. But, the point is that they are more likely to stand up to tyranny. The conditions are selecting for people who are smart enough to insulate themselves from tyrannical governance as possible. Everyone else is pretty much doomed.



You know why we have more obesity and sensitivity? It's because the genes responsible for fitness and insensitivity have been thinned out of the gene pool by over a century of war. That doesn't mean they aren't still present, they just simply aren't there in the same concentrations as they would have been without over a century of nearly nonstop war.
I'd say it's more about processed foods and the hormones being injected into livestock than anything else. Not to mention prescription drugs for everything little thing and how litigious we've become.
 
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