Mass Shooting Solutions

[floridays]

It sounded like you were saying that, and an extinct warrior class is close enough to the lack of "real men" for the purposes of this conversation. Tbh, warriors are just about as self-destructive a phenotype as you can get in an era of war driven economy. But, the point is that they are more likely to stand up to tyranny. The conditions are selecting for people who are smart enough to insulate themselves from tyrannical governance as possible. Everyone else is pretty much doomed.



You know why we have more obesity and sensitivity? It's because the genes responsible for fitness and insensitivity have been thinned out of the gene pool by over a century of war. That doesn't mean they aren't still present, they just simply aren't there in the same concentrations as they would have been without over a century of nearly nonstop war.

Did you go over the cliff, or am I missing rational thought?

You know why we have more obesity and sensitivity? It's because the genes responsible for fitness and insensitivity have been thinned out of the gene pool by over a century of war.

Explain this please. Your own words, to your understanding.
Start with exactly what "a century of war' has to do with the your statement.

 

[floridays]

I'd say it's more about processed foods and the hormones being injected into livestock than anything else. Not to mention prescription drugs for everything little thing and how litigious we've become.

I'm tending toward your view.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I'd say it's more about processed foods and the hormones being injected into livestock than anything else. Not to mention prescription drugs for everything little thing and how litigious we've become.

Epigenetics does play a role in gene expression, wherein certain traits can be suppressed or enabled by environmental forces. But particular genes that aren't there can't ever be expressed.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Did you go over the cliff, or am I missing rational thought?

How up to speed are you on genetics? I don't plan on teaching a seminar.

Explain this please. Your own words, to your understanding.
Start with exactly what "a century of war' has to do with the your statement.

I'm not starting the conversation over. If you want to follow along, start at the beginning and catch up.

 

[floridays]

How up to speed are you on genetics? I don't plan on teaching a seminar.



I'm not starting the conversation over. If you want to follow along, start at the beginning and catch up.

I will. I see this started before you and vantexan, my apology.

 

[floridays]

@zubenelgenubi, I kinda dropped out after all the @Integrity happened, as they say.
I think you may have a hard time making the point I've observered thus far. You do understand what a human, our traits from the garden after the fall?

I'll read it, might offer a thought or two.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

@zubenelgenubi, I kinda dropped out after all the @Integrity happened, as they say.
I think you may have a hard time making the point I've observered thus far. You do understand what a human, our traits from the garden after the fall?

I'll read it, might offer a thought or two.

God created us to pass our genes through sexual reproduction. There are certain observable rules about how genes spread throughout populations over time.

 

[floridays]

On the other hand, if they are just doing what they are told so they don't lose their licenses, then our healthcare is no longer a matter just between us and our doctors.

Bingo, my walkaway after I finally went to my doctor a few months ago since the "pandemic" started.

Only my personal experience is noted.

 

[floridays]

God created us to pass our genes through sexual reproduction. There are certain observable rules about how genes spread throughout populations over time.

Understood, I don't understand the war part you were speaking of. I'll read it as long as I'm interested unless you offer the condensed version.

 

[vantexan]

God created us to pass our genes through sexual reproduction. There are certain observable rules about how genes spread throughout populations over time.

Still have to have the numbers. There just haven't been enough killed to affect our population to that extent in the last 100 years.

 

[floridays]

Still have to have the numbers. There just haven't been enough killed to affect our population to that extent in the last 100 years.

I'm stupid, say what you mean so a fifth grader can understand it. I'm missing something I think.

As usual probably. Before I try to put words in your mouth, exactly what are you saying?

 

[floridays]

God created us to pass our genes through sexual reproduction. There are certain observable rules about how genes spread throughout populations over time.

There are rules, the direct mother and father provide the genes to their child (offspring) that is my understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Either way, proceed to second base, you have my attention.

 

[floridays]

If anyone read it,

does anyone like my idea of compulsory military service after graduation or dropping out of high school? It was one of three Ideas I offered.

Mass shooting solutions was the purpose of this thread.

Correct me if I'm in error @Fred's Myth.

 

[vantexan]

I'm stupid, say what you mean so a fifth grader can understand it. I'm missing something I think.

As usual probably. Before I try to put words in your mouth, exactly what are you saying?

Zube is saying that the men killed in the last 100 years of constant war has reduced the number of men willing to fight for the country considerably going forward as the men who died weren't able to pass along their genes that would impart that fighting spirit. I'm saying the total number who died weren't enough to affect the overall population to the extent he is saying. Not to mention due to the draft many of the men who died weren't exceptional warriors but were average guys who were fulfilling their obligation under the law. The only war we've fought that would've killed enough men to affect an entire generation was the Civil War. But those men soon got replaced by a huge surge of immigration. We discussed Paraguay recently. Imagine the U.S. being in a war that saw 90% of all its men killed as Paraguay did! We've never experienced anything close to that or the tens of millions killed that several countries experienced in WWII.

 

[floridays]

Zube is saying that the men killed in the last 100 years of constant war has reduced the number of men willing to fight for the country considerably going forward as the men who died weren't able to pass along their genes that would impart that fighting spirit. I'm saying the total number who died weren't enough to affect the overall population to the extent he is saying. Not to mention due to the draft many of the men who died weren't exceptional warriors but were average guys who were fulfilling their obligation under the law. The only war we've fought that would've killed enough men to affect an entire generation was the Civil War. But those men soon got replaced by a huge surge of immigration. We discussed Paraguay recently. Imagine the U.S. being in a war that saw 90% of all its men killed as Paraguay did! We've never experienced anything close to that or the tens of millions killed that several countries experienced in WWII.

I guess I'm still missing something. I'm not aware of a killer gene that some select from the past years had. Few crave to go to war, but when called serve. Most in the military in time of war never see combat. I don't get his fighter gene being lost. I'd offer that there is more hatred and fight (fighter gene) in our country today. If it comes down to it, don't blame it on a lost gene, chalk it up to a lost country. It's gone brother, poof, like cotton candy, and it ain't coming back.
The "killer gene" is still alive, I'm not sure if we'll see it unleashed before we die, but it will happen. The round has been fired, a fired round is not retrieved until it impacts. That's the way I see it.

Between ourselves I said the country was lost a few years ago. Is that a correct statement?

Name one thing that has put our country on a better course that everyone could believe is for the benefit of all. Hasn't happened, will not happen, impossible to happen. The United States is dead, the only way to salvage part is a divorce. There are irreconcilable differences. Like the cotton candy you had at a county fair, it's gone. Poof.

Just facts, time will prove me correct.

 

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[Thebrownblob]

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That’s impossible @Integrity Says federal government should be able to decide if you have a weapon or not. Clearly they have your best intentions in mind. Although it is interesting that they would take your weapon by pointing a weapon at you…..

 

[vantexan]

I guess I'm still missing something. I'm not aware of a killer gene that some select from the past years had. Few crave to go to war, but when called serve. Most in the military in time of war never see combat. I don't get his fighter gene being lost. I'd offer that there is more hatred and fight (fighter gene) in our country today. If it comes down to it, don't blame it on a lost gene, chalk it up to a lost country. It's gone brother, poof, like cotton candy, and it ain't coming back.
The "killer gene" is still alive, I'm not sure if we'll see it unleashed before we die, but it will happen. The round has been fired, a fired round is not retrieved until it impacts. That's the way I see it.

Between ourselves I said the country was lost a few years ago. Is that a correct statement?

Name one thing that has put our country on a better course that everyone could believe is for the benefit of all. Hasn't happened, will not happen, impossible to happen. The United States is dead, the only way to salvage part is a divorce. There are irreconcilable differences. Like the cotton candy you had at a county fair, it's gone. Poof.

Just facts, time will prove me correct.

The U.S. is the one country that can correct its course through voting every 2-4 years. Assuming that its elections are legitimate. If it can no longer do that then you are right, the country is lost. Parts of this country could very well make great countries on their own, but sooner or later they'll have to deal with their neighbors. Hope it never comes to that but that hope is different than saying I'm not willing to fight. Some are eager to fight, and they interpret that as being of a desired warrior mindset. Every military man I've ever known was of the mindset that war is always the last thing wanted but it's what they prepare for just in case.
And in my lifetime the one man who united us more than any other was Ronald Reagan. It's impossible in a country this size, this diverse to have most on the same page but he demonstrated what a great patriot could do with good governance and a good sense of humor. Don't know if the present generation would let a Reagan succeed. Likely not.

 

[Wally]

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[zubenelgenubi]

Still have to have the numbers. There just haven't been enough killed to affect our population to that extent in the last 100 years.

I disagree. I've never said to what extent, simply that it has thinned the genes necessary to stand up to tyranny. We see the evidence daily. What's happened over the last two years would never have been attempted 50 years ago, and they had much worse diseases to contend with.