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[Fred's Myth]

I disagree. I've never said to what extent, simply that it has thinned the genes necessary to stand up to tyranny. We see the evidence daily. What's happened over the last two years would never have been attempted 50 years ago, and they had much worse diseases to contend with.

I guess I'm still missing something. I'm not aware of a killer gene that some select from the past years had.

I tend to agree with @floridays . This is why AI and robotics is so important to the military. Just remember, what can be used against the enemy can also be used against the citizenry.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I tend to agree with @floridays . This is why AI and robotics is so important to the military. Just remember, what can be used against the enemy can also be used against the citizenry.

He starts his post with this:

I'm not aware of a killer gene that some select from the past years had.

Then later says this:

The "killer gene" is still alive,

Which is it? Is he unaware of a "killer gene"? Or is it "still alive."


Btw, I never specifcally mentioned any particular gene. I'm making broad, general observations (I think we can all agree on the idea of the pussification of America) and pointing out that over a hundred years of war killing off the people best suited for standing up.to tyranny has had an impact. Such a claim ought not be so controversial. But people read what they expect to read, I guess.

 

[Fred's Myth]

He starts his post with this:

Then later says this:


Which is it? Is he unaware of a "killer gene"? Or is it "still alive."


Btw, I never specifcally mentioned any particular gene. I'm making broad, general observations (I think we can all agree on the idea of the pussification of America) and pointing out that over a hundred years of war killing off the people best suited for standing up.to tyranny has had an impact. Such a claim ought not be so controversial. But people read what they expect to read, I guess.

I find your posts edifying, but at the same time I believe you’ve watched too many ‘Planet of the Apes’ movies!

Keep posting, I’m a fan!

 

[Integrity]

What is your question?

What is your question?

 

[vantexan]

I disagree. I've never said to what extent, simply that it has thinned the genes necessary to stand up to tyranny. We see the evidence daily. What's happened over the last two years would never have been attempted 50 years ago, and they had much worse diseases to contend with.

50 years ago? Which diseases would that be? We got vaccinated as children. There has been no pandemic on this scale since the Spanish Flu except maybe polio and it wasn't as contagious.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I find your posts edifying, but at the same time I believe you’ve watched too many ‘Planet of the Apes’ movies!

Keep posting, I’m a fan!

I tend to agree with most of what you write. But, I think I've only seen the first planet of the apes movie.

I don't know if you are making a reference to my proclivity for sci-fi movies in general, or if there is something particular about planet of the apes. Within the context of the conversation I assume you are making connections between my comments about genetics and the idea of evolution as presented in planet of the apes.

I don't believe in evolution as most people tend to understand it. I do believe concentrations of genes in a population change over time, and that selection of which genes get passed on is a function of environmental factors and suitability of the traits expressed by those genes in surviving the environmental factors. That's not the same thing as saying we all evolved from pond scum.

 

[Fred's Myth]

I tend to agree with most of what you write. But, I think I've only seen the first planet of the apes movie.

I don't know if you are making a reference to my proclivity for sci-fi movies in general, or if there is something particular about planet of the apes. Within the context of the conversation I assume you are making connections between my comments about genetics and the idea of evolution as presented in planet of the apes.

I don't believe in evolution as most people tend to understand it. I do believe concentrations of genes in a population change over time, and that selection of which genes get passed on is a function of environmental factors and suitability of the traits expressed by those genes in surviving the environmental factors. That's not the same thing as saying we all evolved from pond scum.

Personally, I believe that evolution is a process set in motion by our Creator, in order for our living macrocosm to adapt to the changing environment, and to provide diversity of those organisms.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

50 years ago? Which diseases would that be? We got vaccinated as children. There has been no pandemic on this scale since the Spanish Flu except maybe polio and it wasn't as contagious.

There's no point in bringing up the scale of covid. We have zero way to know the true scale of the pandemic because the numbers have all been made up, mostly from excessive testing, using tests that were admittedly unable to differentiate between the cold, flu, or covid.

They tried to cause this type of panic with swine flu in the late 60's and 70's, people weren't having any of it. They shut down the vaccine for swine flu after it killed only 9 people, and was proven to cause GBS and other neurological disorders.

They tried causing this hysteria in the 80's with HIV, but people weren't having it.

They tried in the 90s with avian flu.

They tried in the 2000's with sars cov 1, zika, west nile, etc.

But they finally had more than marginal success with a relatively harmless virus. I wonder what's changed in the intervening years.

 

[vantexan]

He starts his post with this:

Then later says this:


Which is it? Is he unaware of a "killer gene"? Or is it "still alive."


Btw, I never specifcally mentioned any particular gene. I'm making broad, general observations (I think we can all agree on the idea of the pussification of America) and pointing out that over a hundred years of war killing off the people best suited for standing up.to tyranny has had an impact. Such a claim ought not be so controversial. But people read what they expect to read, I guess.

Since WW1 approximately 620,000 American men have died in wars. About the same number died in the Civil War. We're a country of 330,000,000+ with 1.4 million active duty military and about 800,000 in reserves. We're also a country of gun owners. And Sheriff departments and police departmenrs everywhere. So to say that there are relatively few willing to stand up and fight due to so many of such having been killed off in the past is a stretch at best. What I think you really mean is there are relatively few who buy into the world as you want it.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Personally, I believe that evolution is a process set in motion by our Creator, in order for our living macrocosm to adapt to the changing environment, and to provide diversity of those organisms.

I'm open to that possibility. But there are too many holes in what most people believe evolution is. Irreducible complexity is one. The odds against brand new genes resulting from random mutations that aren't harmful is another.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Since WW1 approximately 620,000 American men have died in wars.

How many children would those men have fathered over the years? And how many children would their children have had? We're talking millions, and that's enough to have an impact on the genetic composition of the population.

About the same number died in the Civil War. We're a country of 330,000,000+ with 1.4 million active duty military and about 800,000 in reserves. We're also a country of gun owners. And Sheriff departments and police departmenrs everywhere.

So?

So to say that there are relatively few willing to stand up and fight due to so many of such having been killed off in the past is a stretch at best.

It's inarguably a contributing factor. But you'll argue it anyway.

What I think you really mean is there are relatively few who buy into the world as you want it.

You read what you want to read.

But there is some truth to that. I want a world where there are more people who are reasonably skeptical of people who want to eliminate our rights. That is clearly not the world we live in, and we are instead surrounded by people who suffer under delusions that the government can or even wants to keep us safe. That is partially because the numbers of people who wouldn't stand for that were reduced by over a century of nearly constant war.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

What is your question?

Which question?

 

[Integrity]

Hey Mass Shooting Thread Participants,

First thing is

Which question?

Your question.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Hey Mass Shooting Thread Participants,

First thing is

Your question.

What question are you referring to?

 

[Mutineer]

But they finally had more than marginal success with a relatively harmless virus. I wonder what's changed in the intervening years.

As we are in hyper-politicized times, covid was immediately politicized.

I don't recall that being a factor in the viruses prior to this.

Except sorta' for AIDS. I plainly remember far-right jeezlers going waaay too far with their rhetoric.

And it was absolutely terrible how they demonized that Ryan White kid.

I once saw a bumper sticker that read something like:

Dear God. Please save me from your followers.

Sooo true.

 

[Integrity]

What question are you referring to?

I can’t help you with this question.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I can’t help you with this question.

Why not?

 

[Integrity]

Why not?

I believe you know.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

As we are in hyper-politicized times, covid was immediately politicized.

I don't recall that being a factor in the viruses prior to this.

Every major "new" virus has been an excuse for a power grab.

Except sorta' for AIDS. I plainly remember far-right jeezlers going waaay too far with their rhetoric.

And it was absolutely terrible how they demonized that Ryan White kid.

It's unfortunate what happens when the perceived experts and authorities lie and get things wrong. The common factor there is the perceived experts and authorities. The solution is a healthy dose of skepticism.

I once saw a bumper sticker that read something like:

Dear God. Please save me from your followers.

Sooo true.

I grew up in the church, I no longer attend because people can only try to excuse their hypocrisy, not repent and try to do better. That's not a community I can be part of.

 

[Mutineer]

Why not?

I believe you know.

Maybe you two should get a room together.

PM the address. I will have a goat delivered.

The goat is for cuz goats like to watch.