Move to Upstate NY - free college ... maybe

Catatonic

Nine Lives
I like this and it is a good investment for the NY taxpayers.
The only aspect I don't like is that there is a Cap on earned income.
These should be for everyone as long as the student has the grades to get in.
I personally feel this should be offered to students who are studying in the STEM fields.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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Let me clarify a few points on what I agree is a fantastic program:

New York is not paying the whole tab-----they are only paying the difference between the tuition due and what financial aid will pay.

Room and board are NOT included------this means more of our local students will choose to live at home and will miss out on a vital part of the college experience----dorm life.

Students do have to maintain a minimum GPA and have to graduate on time.

I disagree with your assertion that there should not be an income cap.

The program will start with a cap of $110K and go up gradually to $125K.

Our PDS' daughter has a free four year ride to our local SUNY and is living at home. Daddy bought her a new KIA to drive there and back.
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
Saw this earlier today and was going to post in that other thread you questioned about what was the original topic but I was afraid if I did, I would be accused of going off topic! ;)

Humor aside, I got no problem with this but admittedly I don't live in NY State either. That said, let's test the concept and see what actually results from it.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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Saw this earlier today and was going to post in that other thread you questioned about what was the original topic but I was afraid if I did, I would be accused of going off topic! ;)

Humor aside, I got no problem with this but admittedly I don't live in NY State either. That said, let's test the concept and see what actually results from it.

I think it will be a win/win for all involved.

$153M projected investment by the state.

The only problem that I have with it is that it disproportionally helps the more wealthy.

For example:

Student A: parents make $60K, tuition is $5K, financial aid is $3K, state pays $2K.

Student B: parents make $110K, tuition is still $5K, financial aid is zero, state pays $5K.
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
I think it will be a win/win for all involved.

$153M projected investment by the state.

The only problem that I have with it is that it disproportionally helps the more wealthy.

For example:

Student A: parents make $60K, tuition is $5K, financial aid is $3K, state pays $2K.

Student B: parents make $110K, tuition is still $5K, financial aid is zero, state pays $5K.

There's one way to find out and NY State is taking the bull by the horns and giving it a go.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
Let me clarify a few points on what I agree is a fantastic program:

New York is not paying the whole tab-----they are only paying the difference between the tuition due and what financial aid will pay.

Room and board are NOT included------this means more of our local students will choose to live at home and will miss out on a vital part of the college experience----dorm life.

Students do have to maintain a minimum GPA and have to graduate on time.

I disagree with your assertion that there should not be an income cap.

The program will start with a cap of $110K and go up gradually to $125K.

Our PDS' daughter has a free four year ride to our local SUNY and is living at home. Daddy bought her a new KIA to drive there and back.
So NY is ignoring the Trump supporters ... those hard working middle class families that make more than $100,000.
A truly benevolent government would care about all it's citizens, not just the truly, real "less fortunate" citizens.
What about those kids whose parents spend all their money on blings or booze (drugs).
Parents are not obliged to provide a college education to their kids.
So, we continue to disagree on the "income" being a disqualifier.
All for one and one for all!
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
A reasonable reward for graduating from HS with the grades that qualify for a Government investment.

He was all set to write a $30K check to a private school. When she decided to accept the scholarship and continue to live at home, he was thrilled at "only" having to buy her a car.

Did I mention that she is pursuing a liberal arts degree?
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
I think it will be a win/win for all involved.

$153M projected investment by the state.

The only problem that I have with it is that it disproportionally helps the more wealthy.

For example:

Student A: parents make $60K, tuition is $5K, financial aid is $3K, state pays $2K.

Student B: parents make $110K, tuition is still $5K, financial aid is zero, state pays $5K.
Are you kidding?
That's just a :censored2:ed up concept.
Why do we need to keep score on who got confiscated funds from the government?
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
I'll take Schumer over Rev. Al any day.

Schumer spoke at my son's graduation from grad school. Very eloquent speaker.
I like Schumer and I feel his pain in him having to play the role he is playing.
He is a much better man than his appearances as leader of the Dem Senators demonstrate.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
Smart move on providing infrastructure and jobs for NY State... hopefully it is just for STEM study.
The US doesn't need another million English or History degrees pumping gas.
 
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