Mueller report

newfie

Well-Known Member
Whenever you start calling for a real investigation into the Clinton Syndicate, then you legitimize your viewpoint towards Trump.

That's when your vitriol towards Trump can be taken seriously.

its like they all became born again Christians and suddenly realized obstruction was bad after wrecking all those hard drives and cell phones.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
The Benghazi inquest was like a retirement party.....all the statements from the Dem side were praise of her career. Only the GOP asked probing questions.

they had no choice. anything else and the dem asking the tough question would have committed suicide in a local park
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
It doesn’t.

It just distracts from it.
You guys air off what Hillary did as if no big deal. And act like Trump is a serial killer. Truth is he hasn't done anything impeachable while she should be looking at serious prison time. And if the Trump administration had used phony documents to spy on the Obama campaign you'd be screaming for their heads. Literally rioting in the streets. And you're going to protect your guys because, after all, it was about getting Trump booted. Hard to be critical of that, huh?
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
You guys air off what Hillary did as if no big deal. And act like Trump is a serial killer. Truth is he hasn't done anything impeachable while she should be looking at serious prison time. And if the Trump administration had used phony documents to spy on the Obama campaign you'd be screaming for their heads. Literally rioting in the streets. And you're going to protect your guys because, after all, it was about getting Trump booted. Hard to be critical of that, huh?
We’ve been over this many times. Obstruction is an impeachable offense. Mueller found ten instances in which Trump attempted to obstruct justice.

How is anybody protecting Clinton?

What about the IG report? I don’t hear Clinton or her supporters calling it a witch hunt. In fact, we’ve said many, many times, go ahead and investigate all you want.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
We’ve been over this many times. Obstruction is an impeachable offense. Mueller found ten instances in which Trump attempted to obstruct justice.

How is anybody protecting Clinton?

What about the IG report? I don’t hear Clinton or her supporters calling it a witch hunt. In fact, we’ve said many, many times, go ahead and investigate all you want.
..."In an impeachment proceeding, the key question isn’t whether the president technically violated one or more of the federal obstruction statutes. It’s whether his transgressions are serious enough to justify removal from office."...
...“There is a further requirement—substantiality.” Impeachment should “be predicated only upon conduct seriously incompatible with either the constitutional form and principles of our government or the proper performance of constitutional duties of the presidential office.”...
...“There is a further requirement—substantiality.” Impeachment should “be predicated only upon conduct seriously incompatible with either the constitutional form and principles of our government or the proper performance of constitutional duties of the presidential office.”But for the purposes of an impeachment, arguably, it should. "...

Criminal Obstruction vs. Impeachable Obstruction
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
..."In an impeachment proceeding, the key question isn’t whether the president technically violated one or more of the federal obstruction statutes. It’s whether his transgressions are serious enough to justify removal from office."...
...“There is a further requirement—substantiality.” Impeachment should “be predicated only upon conduct seriously incompatible with either the constitutional form and principles of our government or the proper performance of constitutional duties of the presidential office.”...
...“There is a further requirement—substantiality.” Impeachment should “be predicated only upon conduct seriously incompatible with either the constitutional form and principles of our government or the proper performance of constitutional duties of the presidential office.”But for the purposes of an impeachment, arguably, it should. "...

Criminal Obstruction vs. Impeachable Obstruction
Yes. I agree.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
We’ve been over this many times. Obstruction is an impeachable offense. Mueller found ten instances in which Trump attempted to obstruct justice.

How is anybody protecting Clinton?

What about the IG report? I don’t hear Clinton or her supporters calling it a witch hunt. In fact, we’ve said many, many times, go ahead and investigate all you want.
Again, I know you didn't steal my horse but I'm hanging you for resisting me accusing you of stealing my horse. It wasn't a legitimate investigatiion, predicated on lies. And it just came out that some statements in the report are edited to make it sound like witnesses said something else. This was a political hit job from the beginning. Meanwhile Hillary literally obstructed justice and...and...crickets.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Again, I know you didn't steal my horse but I'm hanging you for resisting me accusing you of stealing my horse. It wasn't a legitimate investigatiion, predicated on lies. And it just came out that some statements in the report are edited to make it sound like witnesses said something else. This was a political hit job from the beginning. Meanwhile Hillary literally obstructed justice and...and...crickets.
If the IG report says it was a political hit job, I’ll take his word for it.

More likely is that even though some sources were suspect, the investigation overall was legitimate.

As far as Hillary goes...

How clear do we have to make it? Nobody cares if you investigate her. If there are crimes, nobody cares if you indict her. If she’s found guilty, nobody cares if you imprison her.

If you hear crickets, it’s because nobody is defending her.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Again, I know you didn't steal my horse but I'm hanging you for resisting me accusing you of stealing my horse. It wasn't a legitimate investigatiion, predicated on lies.
Surely you understand why obstruction is a crime, don't be so silly.

If you successfully obstruct justice, then you could say there was no crime, so I couldn't have obstructed. I mean really, use your brain buddy.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
If the IG report says it was a political hit job, I’ll take his word for it.

More likely is that even though some sources were suspect, the investigation overall was legitimate.

As far as Hillary goes...

How clear do we have to make it? Nobody cares if you investigate her. If there are crimes, nobody cares if you indict her. If she’s found guilty, nobody cares if you imprison her.

If you hear crickets, it’s because nobody is defending her.
Not legitimate at all. Part of trying to bring down a president who's only crime was beating the presumed next president.
 
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