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In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Some supplements rely on language in the national. So if the national language changes, it might make some supplemental agreements obsolete before they're even ratified.

What happens when members’s monetary benefits are inferior to others that are stuck in supplemental, rider or a letter of understanding?

To put it bluntly, what happens when the Company purposely discriminates against a minority group of our membership just because the leadership is protecting the status quo.

What if the Company refuses to negotiate any improvements in those supplements and riders knowing full well that a vast majority of our membership are willing to throw others under the bus rather then fixing the problem.

That is why negotiating the supplements and riders first is so important. Has the concept that ALL union members should be paid the same, have the same retirement and healthcare benefits nationwide a pipe dream.

Every time the Company sees our members turn on each other when push comes to shove they win. If the Company wins concessions or the Union fails to address previous injustices with this Contract it will not be done by our elected officials unfortunately it will be done by a mob mentality of looking out for number one. To hell with the rest.
 

Sacrificial Lamb

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I REALLY hope they get 9.5 language improved. All drivers can sign, and an automatic filing EVERY TIME not any of this 3 times bull spit. I and many others have gone over 9.5 one or two times every week this year (except there were 2 weeks i have not). My management team knows we can't do anything till 3 so they will intentionally screw us and cut routes and not do anything till you have 2. You want a good week? You better hit 2 9.5s before wednesday. I am on the verge of losing my :censored2:. Went from the worse peak i have had right into the first quarter tightening of the belt and back to stops per car. Idk how other centers are but my manager sucks. Then the one stipidvisor gets on my nuts about it "you need to do your part out there! You are taking extra times at stops and getting complacient you shouldn't be over...." hey if you want me to do my part then dispatch needs to do THEIR part. Set the plans for me to deliver 4 plus businesses after 5 almost everyday..... right..... its looks good for dispatch setting it that way. I gave them another list for one last time, i am ready to follow it and start missing businesses like it wants me to. /RAGE!
How about the 8hr language? 8 hours is a normal day not 9.5.
 

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In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier

Not just a “defining moment” for our Union.. every Collective Bargaining organization in the world will be watching.

If we go out in 2023 it will make the “97” one look like a Tupperware party in comparison.

The winds have changed people are starting to see the disparities between the “haves and have nots”.

The Company has already sealed the starting rate with Market Adjustments, it will be over 20 bucks an hour. Inflation is still running over 7 percent, it will be awhile before it gets down to that 3 percent level that the federal reserve wants. GWI’s over a dollar will still be well below the inflation rates, we will lose ground.

Healthcare contributions (500 a week) will probably still be adequate to provide our current coverages.

The big fight would be our pension contributions/improvements or lack of..I do not see O’Brien pushing for equity in that area, at least on the media arena. Behind the scenes it maybe another story.
 

ManInBrown

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Can’t make it up. One of the things SO said was a strike worthy issue was feeder subcontracting. The union has already pulled that demand. They already tapped out on subcontracting 😂so one of the five or six pillars that he said were non negotiable. 22.4, pvd, sixth punch I forget the rest the union has already tapped out. This is going swimmingly so far.
 

Bubblehead

My Senior Picture
Can’t make it up. One of the things SO said was a strike worthy issue was feeder subcontracting. The union has already pulled that demand. They already tapped out on subcontracting 😂so one of the five or six pillars that he said were non negotiable. 22.4, pvd, sixth punch I forget the rest the union has already tapped out. This is going swimmingly so far.
How does something get "pulled" before negotiations even begin?

Not one National Master proposal has been exchanged yet, none....SMH

It's likely pretty easy to forget what you never knew in the first place.
 

ManInBrown

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First, that’s not the national,

Second, it sounds like you’re supplemental committee would not do any negotiating until UPS withdrew their proposal on subcontracting.
I’m aware it’s not the national but the Supplements get their marching orders or directives from SO team. And I took it the complete opposite way. It sounds like the Union was arguing for no more subcontracting and it wasn’t happening so they withdrew. Why would it say the Teamsters argued hard?
 

Thebrownblob

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I’m aware it’s not the national but the Supplements get their marching orders or directives from SO team. And I took it the complete opposite way. It sounds like the Union was arguing for no more subcontracting and it wasn’t happening so they withdrew. Why would it say the Teamsters argued hard?
They would say, they argued hard to prove the point that the company backed away from their proposal
 
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