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Thebrownblob

Thebrownblob

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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) said:
The only way you are ever going to see a uniform pension throughout the company is if the company were to pay their withdrawal liability to pull their employees from each of the MEPP's (Multiple Employer Pension Plans), such as NYST and CSPF.

Many folks believe that 1997 was about part time jobs----it wasn't----UPS wanted the pension which, in hindsight, may have been a good thing given the recent $86B bailout of Teamster MEPP's. UPS retirees in NYST and WCPT enjoy the highest average pensions while those in CSPF receive a much lower average pension. To bring those more in line with one another simply to have uniformity would be unfair.

You will not see a strike authorization vote at any point throughout this process as the Company and Union will shake hands toward the end of June with a ratification vote to be held in mid July.
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burrheadd

burrheadd

KING Of GIFS
DELACROIX said:
Too early for that, the last one was taken in June. On these supplements and riders, I am glad that O'Brien and his team are sticking to their word to settle them before the Master. The Company's game plan when Hoffa was in office was to delay, delay and then stonewall in order to segregate regions and conferences causing division. If this "cost neutral" was accepted on our supplemental and riders the Company would have free rein to continue to offer inferior benefits for our members who are not covered under the Master (supposedly). Case in Point the continuing Pension and Health and Welfare inequality, are we going to accept again a Contract that has one area paying twice or three times the pension benefits as others.

Back in 2018 (The Ohio Rider) for example was never put up for vote. Reason given that there were no improvements to be voted on, the Union Leadership at that time probably knew that it would never pass and cut and ran, we all know that the entire 2018 Contract was a sell out when Hoffa predestined passage, which was their original game plan before the 2018 talks ever started. Hoffa and his team knew that they were goners after the results 2015 General Election, what is scary is that it was reported that Hoffa even (after retiring) still was under the illusion that he could get back into office if HE ran again.

Once the supplemental and riders are agreed to...The Master can be settled in a day if needed, most of the Master Language deals with pay rates and benefit contributions, really hasn't changed much since 2008.
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Are 9.5s and Pvd’s and 6 punch in the master or supplements? If in the master this may take a little longer than you are hoping for
 

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