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[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

No we did not upstate... Guess your not well versed in teamsters history??

I could give a less about Teamster history. What I care about is the majority of Teamsters voted to approve the master and their supplements while several rogue locals thought they could prolong the process by continually voting no on their proposals. The IBT knew that nothing was going to change and did the right thing for the majority by imposing the contract.

 

[realbrown1]

I could give a less about Teamster history. What I care about is the majority of Teamsters voted to approve the master and their supplements while several rogue locals thought they could prolong the process by continually voting no on their proposals. The IBT knew that nothing was going to change and did the right thing for the majority by imposing the contract.

A majority voted on the MASTER contract.

Each local should have been given the backing by the International to help settle their supplements.

 

[anHOURover]

I could give a less about Teamster history. What I care about is the majority of Teamsters voted to approve the master and their supplements while several rogue locals thought they could prolong the process by continually voting no on their proposals. The IBT knew that nothing was going to change and did the right thing for the majority by imposing the contract.

Calling me rogue?? Sounds like your. A meeeeeester..... I don't expect anything less from a balloon making clown from the Empire State

 

[anHOURover]

Who wants to work with levin???

 

[hyena]

I could give a less about Teamster history. What I care about is the majority of Teamsters voted to approve the master and their supplements while several rogue locals thought they could prolong the process by continually voting no on their proposals. The IBT knew that nothing was going to change and did the right thing for the majority by imposing the contract.

It was there right to vote no. Shouldn't have been forced on anyone, but I guess that's what you get when our union leaders are in bed with the company

 

[wide load]

No sir,we did not!

Bull ship! Your rep had the chance at the 2 man.

 

[Lead Belly]

Who wants to work with L???

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I make more than that by April.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Bull ship! Your rep had the chance at the 2 man.

No ..our second contract was forced on us...ing Hoffa and Hall. Took away the rest of our rights.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

I could give a less about Teamster history. What I care about is the majority of Teamsters voted to approve the master and their supplements while several rogue locals thought they could prolong the process by continually voting no on their proposals. The IBT knew that nothing was going to change and did the right thing for the majority by imposing the contract.

A majority voted on the MASTER contract.

Each local should have been given the backing by the International to help settle their supplements.

Wasn't the reason for the IBT forcing the issue to an end because the holdouts were only prolonging their supplements in order to get the Master changed? If so....it was legit per the IBT Constitution. And that was what was explained in the letters that were sent out. At least down here in my area.

 

[PiedmontSteward]

Wasn't the reason for the IBT forcing the issue to an end because the holdouts were only prolonging their supplements in order to get the Master changed? If so....it was legit per the IBT Constitution. And that was what was explained in the letters that were sent out. At least down here in my area.

That was the rationale behind it but I'm not quite sure there was any extensive polling of the members or any legitimate attempts to improve those supplements. Disclaimer: I'm just a steward and don't know if the leaders of those locals were negotiating "in bad faith" and were going to try and hold out for a re-opening of the CBA. I know there was some chatter about the hold out locals getting significant improvements over the areas that voted their supplements in on the first round, but that vanished as soon as the supplements were implemented.

Regardless, the IBT Executive Board amended the IBT Constitution in order to impose the contract. This was an unprecedented move that could easily be interpreted as a corrupt one.

 

[Bubblehead]

That was the rationale behind it but I'm not quite sure there was any extensive polling of the members or any legitimate attempts to improve those supplements. Disclaimer: I'm just a steward and don't know if the leaders of those locals were negotiating "in bad faith" and were going to try and hold out for a re-opening of the CBA. I know there was some chatter about the hold out locals getting significant improvements over the areas that voted their supplements in on the first round, but that vanished as soon as the supplements were implemented.

Regardless, the IBT Executive Board amended the IBT Constitution in order to impose the contract. This was an unprecedented move that could easily be interpreted as a corrupt one.

Article XII, sec VI of the IBT Constitution is an abomination, circumvents local autonomy, while undermining the democratic process.

It must be amended at the convention next summer.

 

[realbrown1]

Wasn't the reason for the IBT forcing the issue to an end because the holdouts were only prolonging their supplements in order to get the Master changed? If so....it was legit per the IBT Constitution. And that was what was explained in the letters that were sent out. At least down here in my area.

The only ones that said that was the international.

Local 89, at least amoung the 3 locals, had some real issues besides health care.

All that got thrown away when the international imposed their contract on them.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Calling me rogue?? Sounds like your. A meeeeeester..... I don't expect anything less from a balloon making clown from the Empire State

...who is set to retire in just under 3 years with a $5.4K/month pension...

Who is the fool now?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

...who is set to retire in just under 3 years with a $5.4K/month pension...

Who is the fool now?

Don't count your chickens,before the eggs hatch.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Don't count your chickens,before the eggs hatch.

My pension will not be my only source of retirement income.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

My pension will not be my only source of retirement income.

That's good. Because I think alot of us are not going to get what we were promised.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

That's good. Because I think alot of us are not going to get what we were promised.

...and a lot of us are planning on our pension and little else...

I think both you and I will be OK but I do worry about those of us with 10 or fewer years of service.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

...and a lot of us are planning on our pension and little else...

I think both you and I will be OK but I do worry about those of us with 10 or fewer years of service.

Many of the 100k whores I work with,out little or nothing in the 401k.

 

[Whatbrownwontdoforyou]

...and a lot of us are planning on our pension and little else...

I think both you and I will be OK but I do worry about those of us with 10 or fewer years of service.

Ups has the guys with less than 10 years running like crazy.....in my opinion there is no way they are going to make 25 years

 

[wide load]

No ..our second contract was forced on us...ing Hoffa and Hall. Took away the rest of our rights.

So your rep didn't have the chance to speak up at the 2 man?