O'Brien criticized for upcoming speech

542thruNthru

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maybe if you deliver in Oregon or San Fran it’s different….
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P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564

Work now, Grieve later.
There exists the “Teamsters“ as a labor union and their exists the member….the rank and file members who probably 95-98% vote Republican. The Democrats are the party of the elitists. They want to demolish the working class, the middle class, and the hobbies and interests we have outside of work. Dems take the union vote, along with the minority vote for granted.
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DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
I think this is an interesting subject. To continue to alienate the republic base of Teamsters, (which doesn’t make any sense, but I digress); O’Brien could limit his own political voting base.
Republicans typically don’t promote labor, but that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t. Maybe if the Teamsters stopped picking on them, they would pass some pro union legislation?

The whole facade is currently crumbling, Biden and Harris are just poster children on what happens when you selected candidates based on identity politics. Biden was never the sharpest tool in the tool kit, just study his history, Harris got into her position because Biden was just dumb enough and got tricked into abiding the long established DEI requirements established years before the Obama years. His select may of been somewhat calculating knowing full well that if he went South during his first term the alternative would be worst. As far as the Teamsters go...they where always going to be considered as White, Uneducated knuckle draggers by the Media, Democratic elites and academia, just study Carol's first remarks when she got into her position during the 2020 summer of love. She was brought up and educated by WOKE ideology and selected her minions accordingly. The Teamster leadership has to be voted in by the rank and file and we all know that the vast majority of them who actually vote are White Blue Collar Males. That is why Obama and his underlings secretly hated the Teamsters, they couldn't follow any DEI rules, it was only based on the voting during our General Elections. Trump was always going to be the candidate of choice even if Biden had a brain, the very nature of Biden/Harris's personalities go against the very nature of most Teamsters. We seen their types on these corporate boards and suffered through the unwarranted promotions solely based on the flavor of the month club. Why endorse a party who's objective is to continue promoting the racist (reverse or not) narratives of DEI in our culture.
 

textat3

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Great post…..how a Teamster who make $100-175k could ever vote for a democrat is beyond me. Are you all dems telling me that before your pcms you guys stand around and praise Biden/Harris/Soros? Different strokes for different folks I guess. Most of us stand around and talk about our guns, trucks, boats, freedoms, muscle cars and money and how we refuse to let the libs take them from us.
 

PT Car Washer

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Great post…..how a Teamster who make $100-175k could ever vote for a democrat is beyond me. Are you all dems telling me that before your pcms you guys stand around and praise Biden/Harris/Soros? Different strokes for different folks I guess. Most of us stand around and talk about our guns, trucks, boats, freedoms, muscle cars and money and how we refuse to let the libs take them from us.
If the Republicans get their way there won't be any Teamster $100k to $175k jobs. What do you think RTW laws are all about?
 

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All Trash No Trailer
I think this is an interesting subject. To continue to alienate the republic base of Teamsters, (which doesn’t make any sense, but I digress); O’Brien could limit his own political voting base.
Republicans typically don’t promote labor, but that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t. Maybe if the Teamsters stopped picking on them, they would pass some pro union legislation?
Do you REALLY think the Republicans will ever welcome labor?
a few months ago republican governors in six southern states banded together to keep the UAW out( Georgia used to have three automobile plants in Georgia that are represented by the UAW)
Republicans love low wages and no chance for the workers to stand up for them selves
 

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All Trash No Trailer
Great post…..how a Teamster who make $100-175k could ever vote for a democrat is beyond me. Are you all dems telling me that before your pcms you guys stand around and praise Biden/Harris/Soros? Different strokes for different folks I guess. Most of us stand around and talk about our guns, trucks, boats, freedoms, muscle cars and money and how we refuse to let the libs take them from us.
You DO understand that the jobs to attain all of those things came from having union representation, right?
The “ libs” stand up for workers rights. The other side would love to see everyone making the bare minimum
 

textat3

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Dems care about their job. Care about illegals, wrecking this country, open borders, DEI….we won’t have a country let alone jobs
 

HBGPreloader

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Not a fan of any of these characters.
However, unlike UAW President, shawn fain, who endorsed biden, stated...
“Look, let me be clear about this: a great majority of our members will not vote for President Biden. Yes, some will. But that's the reality of this: The majority of our members are gonna vote their paychecks. They're going to vote for an economy that works for them...”
...I give O'Brien credit for at least donating to and having a discussion with republicans.
That being said, the one thing that I simply cannot comprehend about unions is how they wish to abdicate much of their responsibility of negotiating what's best for its members to the federal government - who can't even perform a task as simple as balancing the the budget.
Seriously, do you want the federal government managing and/or controlling any of our benefits?
 

Analbumcover

ControlPkgs
All completely false statements. Thanks for your usual rhetoric.

Vast majority of my building is pro-Trump, even the black drivers. Several were handing out Trump signs in the parking lot out of the backs of their cars. Say what you will, but the current Democratic Party is slowly hemorrhaging middle-class blue collar workers.
 

Analbumcover

ControlPkgs
You DO understand that the jobs to attain all of those things came from having union representation, right?
The “ libs” stand up for workers rights. The other side would love to see everyone making the bare minimum

You also need to understand the difference between pro Republican and pro Trump. Many of the guys in my building vote locally for Democrats but are supporting Trump because they feel he is more pro working class while the Democrats are the party of the bi-coastal white wealthy elites.
 

Thebrownblob

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Not a fan of any of these characters.
However, unlike UAW President, shawn fain, who endorsed biden, stated...
“Look, let me be clear about this: a great majority of our members will not vote for President Biden. Yes, some will. But that's the reality of this: The majority of our members are gonna vote their paychecks. They're going to vote for an economy that works for them...”
...I give O'Brien credit for at least donating to and having a discussion with republicans.
That being said, the one thing that I simply cannot comprehend about unions is how they wish to abdicate much of their responsibility of negotiating what's best for its members to the federal government - who can't even perform a task as simple as balancing the the budget.
Seriously, do you want the federal government managing and/or controlling any of our benefits?
I’m not certain what you mean by controlling our benefits. Whether we like it or not, the government controls pretty much all aspects of Union rules and regulations every pension has government rules They have to follow. and some pensions have been bailed out by the government.

Sure, it’s a double edge sword. It’s a game We absolutely have to involve ourselves with. Personally, I think Sean is smart thinking outside of the box. Saying one party is the only party that is our friend is only true if we never extend our hand and friendship first.
I would say the last 60 years of saying one party is our friend hasn’t been very productive for unions and there growth. We are only merely surviving. at worst it doesn’t work. At best we get a seat at both parties table. As with anyone trailblazing a new path, he will either be remembered as a genius or a sucker. But unlike most labor leaders, he will be remembered.
 
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Thebrownblob

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Do you REALLY think the Republicans will ever welcome labor?
a few months ago republican governors in six southern states banded together to keep the UAW out( Georgia used to have three automobile plants in Georgia that are represented by the UAW)
Republicans love low wages and no chance for the workers to stand up for them selves
I believe Sean O’Brien believes he has the commitment of a core group of Republicans that will pass union friendly legislation.

The reality is we need those Republicans because they’re going to win in their respective states.

So many people are focused on the presidential election. I personally do not believe Sean Will endorse the Republican nominee. He’s more focused on the down ballot elections and states that we need some Republicans to vote our way.

Will it work? I don’t know. But it’s not easy going against the conventional wisdom of your organization. So for that, I give him credit.
 

PT Car Washer

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You also need to understand the difference between pro Republican and pro Trump. Many of the guys in my building vote locally for Democrats but are supporting Trump because they feel he is more pro working class while the Democrats are the party of the bi-coastal white wealthy elites.
A New York City real estate developer is pro labor? Please.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
I’m not certain what you mean by controlling our benefits. Whether we like it or not, the government controls pretty much all aspects of Union rules and regulations every pension has government rules They have to follow. and some pensions have been bailed out by the government.

Sure, it’s a double edge sword. It’s a game We absolutely have to involve ourselves with. Personally, I think Sean is smart thinking outside of the box. Saying one party is the only party that is our friend is only true if we never extend our hand and friendship first.
I would say the last 60 years of saying one party is our friend hasn’t been very productive for unions and there growth. We are only merely surviving. at worst it doesn’t work. At best we get a seat at both parties table. As with anyone trailblazing a new path, he will either be remembered as a genius sucker. But unlike most labor leaders, he will be remembered.
Dem party claims to be a friend to labor but in recent years that has been little more than lip service and talking points. The only unions they care much about are public employee unions that they treat as their own slush funds. They have done more to hurt private sector union jobs than Republicans. No justification for an automatic knee jerk response to support only Dems.
 

PT Car Washer

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Dem party claims to be a friend to labor but in recent years that has been little more than lip service and talking points. The only unions they care much about are public employee unions that they treat as their own slush funds. They have done more to hurt private sector union jobs than Republicans. No justification for an automatic knee jerk response to support only Dems.
While Republicans openly vote for RTW laws to weaken labor Unions.
 
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