Ocasio-Cortez and the “socialist” left

[El Correcto]

we prevent crazies all the time.

Do we?

Look at what is going on in other countries around the world before you jump the gun on that one.

Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, Serbia, Libya and North Korea come to mind.

 

[rickyb]

You’re living in the most peaceful time in human history. You want to see people who don’t have a peaceful status quo, look back in history, just study what total war used to be like in ancient times. Look at the world wars.

It’s not hard to see we live in the most peaceful era in history, with stability and prosperity.

speak for yourself but last i checked theres war and terror going on bc of western govts

 

[rickyb]

Do we?

Look at what is going on in other countries around the world before you jump the gun on that one.

Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, Syberia, Libya and North Korea come to mind.

well yea. i should say sometimes.

 

[El Correcto]

speak for yourself but last i checked theres war and terror going on bc of western govts

On a much smaller scale.

I don’t see the war death counts rising to 50 million.

 

[El Correcto]

speak for yourself but last i checked theres war and terror going on bc of western govts

I don’t think you realize how bad previous eras have been.

Most peaceful time doesn’t mean absolute peace.

 

[rickyb]

On a much smaller scale.

I don’t see the war death counts rising to 50 million.

thats bc theres not a world war. theres still wars...

 

[rickyb]

I don’t think you realize how bad previous eras have been.

Most peaceful time doesn’t mean absolute peace.

so how should america spend on defense socialism"?

 

[El Correcto]

thats bc theres not a world war. theres still wars...

Exactly.

so how should america spend on defense socialism"?

I’m not completely against a federal government.

So yes I guess you can label it as a socialist program.

 

[vantexan]

please, capitalism has destroyed more than socialism. america in large parts is a deindustrialized waste land, with despair, suicide, addiction, bc we centralized the economy in corporate board rooms and they destroyed america and got rich off of it.

That's a very different world from the one I'm seeing where most are gainfully employed. A lot of people hooked on, and dying from, opioids aren't because they're full of despair. A lot are just partiers who are in despair because they got themselves hooked on opioids. Considering all the news on opioid related deaths one would have to be just plain stupid to try them.

 

[vantexan]

You’re living in the most peaceful time in human history. You want to see people who don’t have a peaceful status quo, look back in history, just study what total war used to be like in ancient times. Look at the world wars.

It’s not hard to see we live in the most peaceful era in history, with stability and prosperity.

There was PAXA ROMA. Things were peaceful because the slightest questioning of authority got you killed.

 

[rickyb]

Exactly.


I’m not completely against a federal government.

So yes I guess you can label it as a socialist program.

how much???

 

[rickyb]

That's a very different world from the one I'm seeing where most are gainfully employed. A lot of people hooked on, and dying from, opioids aren't because they're full of despair. A lot are just partiers who are in despair because they got themselves hooked on opioids. Considering all the news on opioid related deaths one would have to be just plain stupid to try them.

theres right now millions of americans not making a living wage

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I just personally think welfare programs enacted on state levels would be more accountable at the voting booth.

Why?

 

[Old Man Jingles]

theres right now millions of americans not making a living wage

And most of them had the opportunity as everyone else but they were complacent and unmotivated.

 

[rickyb]

And most of them had the opportunity as everyone else but they were complacent and unmotivated.

when ur born rich or poor its not the same opportunity for starters

 

[vantexan]

theres right now millions of americans not making a living wage

Are they dying?

 

[rickyb]

Are they dying?

dont have to be

 

[Old Man Jingles]

when ur born rich or poor its not the same opportunity for starters

I agree with that but ...
I know lots of kids of parents in the top 25% that are living very poorly because they choose that lifestyle.

Both of my parents were blind and they worked for government for $0.75 per hour and I worked 2 and 3 jobs until I went full-time with UPS as a driver ... and I still worked on many weekends.
Now I'm in the top 5% of Americans in 'income' and wealth'.

It's all about CHOICES.

If I ran a marathon and you could give me a twenty mile head start and I would still come in last.
The choices I have made causes that result.

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

I agree with that but ...
I know lots of kids of parents in the top 25% that are living very poorly because they choose that lifestyle.

Both of my parents were blind and they worked for government for $0.75 per hour and I worked 2 and 3 jobs until I went full-time with UPS as a driver ... and I still worked on many weekends.
Now I'm in the top 5% of Americans in 'income' and wealth'.

It's all about CHOICES.

If I ran a marathon and you could give me a twenty mile head start and I would still come in last.
The choices I have made causes that result.

I have a family member who was given every opportunity life could give. A dream to almost anyone. 2 high society parents who tried to raise him right and give him opportunity after opportunity to make something of himself. They aren’t just gonna hand everything to him. So he CHOOSES to live like a homeless person. It is absolutely about CHOICES. 110% correct.

 

[MAKAVELI]

I agree with that but ...
I know lots of kids of parents in the top 25% that are living very poorly because they choose that lifestyle.

Both of my parents were blind and they worked for government for $0.75 per hour and I worked 2 and 3 jobs until I went full-time with UPS as a driver ... and I still worked on many weekends.
Now I'm in the top 5% of Americans in 'income' and wealth'.

It's all about CHOICES.

If I ran a marathon and you could give me a twenty mile head start and I would still come in last.
The choices I have made causes that result.

And all the money in the world doesn't mean squat if you don't have your health.