Ocasio-Cortez and the “socialist” left

oldngray

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El Correcto

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*Democratic Socialist. The Bernie movement isn't going away and an infusion of youth to this movement is exactly what Democrats need. 2020 will be very interesting.
All the optimism.

From what I’ve seen this woman isn’t even qualified to be a stripper wife.

Can’t properly dance, cook or pour liquor into a glass.
 

MAKAVELI

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All the optimism.

From what I’ve seen this woman isn’t even qualified to be a stripper wife.

Can’t properly dance, cook or pour liquor into a glass.
A stripper wife doesn't need to do any of those things. Just needs a bangin body, and be able to suck and take D*.:happy2:
 

BrownArmy

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And none of you dispute the article, you simply attack the author and people you assume support that particular argument (socialists!! the horror)

It’s just more ideas.

Don’t freak out!
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
Anyone defending hosing the rich is dumb.


I’d kind of like to see it happen, we can finally see all the coastal and hollywood elites keep their promise of leaving America.
I don't have any problems either if 70% starts at $10 M.
The fact that the National government is extorting any percentage of the income is onerous so the amount is secondary.
The only problem is that there are ways to change compensation from personal income to some other type of income ... in time and ownership comes to mind.
Look at doctors and how the Pharma industry pay for trips for the doctor and their family to a 1 hr per day educational seminar that lasts a week and it's in Hawaii or a Caribbean destination.
 

BrownArmy

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Anyone defending hosing the rich is dumb.


I’d kind of like to see it happen, we can finally see all the coastal and hollywood elites keep their promise of leaving America.

You’re young, and devoid of context, so you get a pass.

Some of the USA’s best days were when the marginal tax rate was 70%.

I’m not advocating going there, but, to be fair, that used to be the norm, and the world didn’t implode...

The rich were still rich, the economy did just fine, industry lumbered along at a brisk pace, etc.

Granted, we were coming off WWII, where of course, as the winner, and with Europe destroyed, we were set up to be the most winningest country evah!

Sure, things are different now, but my guess is we could swing the pendulum back towards some kind of parity.
 

Box Ox

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And none of you dispute the article, you simply attack the author and people you assume support that particular argument (socialists!! the horror)

It’s just more ideas.

Don’t freak out!

I think these are the two mistaken arguments of Krugman's:

1) Diminishing marginal returns ("Come on, you won't miss all that extra money anyway!")

and

2) Pointing to the much higher post-WWII top marginal tax rates and tying them to the higher rate of GDP growth per capita. The US economically dominated the post-WWII world in which Europe and Asia were rebuilding, and big third world economies had not yet merged as major players.

US GDP growth per capita was bound to decrease in an increasingly globalized and competitive world economy, regardless of what the top marginal income tax rates were.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
And none of you dispute the article, you simply attack the author and people you assume support that particular argument (socialists!! the horror)

It’s just more ideas.

Don’t freak out!
Krugmann has a history of stupidity and goofiness.
I do like his ideas but they tend to be fringe stands involving questionable logic.
He reminds me of Chomsky in many ways.

In this instance, OAC's math inadequacy is not the 70% tax but the assertion that a 70% on the rich would pay for 'Medicare for everyone'. That will not even get close to paying for it.
 
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Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
Some of the USA’s best days were when the marginal tax rate was 70%.
I’m not advocating going there, but, to be fair, that used to be the norm, and the world didn’t implode...
The rich were still rich, the economy did just fine, industry lumbered along at a brisk pace, etc.
Granted, we were coming off WWII, where of course, as the winner, and with Europe destroyed, we were set up to be the most winningest country evah!
Sure, things are different now, but my guess is we could swing the pendulum back towards some kind of parity.
Now you sound like Trump.
 
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El Correcto

god is dead
And none of you dispute the article, you simply attack the author and people you assume support that particular argument (socialists!! the horror)

It’s just more ideas.

Don’t freak out!
At this point it’s not even doubling down on stupid destructive policies, it’s quadrupling down.

Hey guys remember that time we raised everyone’s taxes and fought a war on poverty.

Let’s do that again. It’s only given us some of the most costly entitlement programs out of any country ever.

They won’t be happy until 60% of my earning leave my check every week.
 

BrownArmy

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Now you sound like Trump.

Now you sound like you’re on MMDA...

Trump would never say anything close to what I was talking about.

Even if you want to pick the last sentence of my post and remove it from its context to apply it toward your agenda, it’s still too many words for Trump.

I mean, you’d have to go back to video from the ‘80’s to hear Trump string a complex sentence together.

Have you heard him lately?

Guy’s a mess.
 

BrownArmy

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At this point it’s not even doubling down on stupid destructive policies, it’s quadrupling down.

Hey guys remember that time we raised everyone’s taxes and fought a war on poverty.

Let’s do that again. It’s only given us some of the most costly entitlement programs out of any country ever.

They won’t be happy until 60% of my earning leave my check every week.

Don’t bother thinking.

The alleged 70% income tax wouldn’t apply to you, just as it wouldn’t have applied to your post-WWII doppelgänger.

Honey, you’re just not rich enough to get raped by Ocasio-Cortez, sorry if that hurts your feelings...
 
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