The Idea behind occuy Wall st is a great example of Americans getting together to voice their dis-satisfaction with how things run. Companies got bailed out while the working men and woman of this country got sold out. These companies where given money to stay in business. Now they are back giving out bonuses to the knuckle heads that caused many of these problems. They are not hiring and saving money which is not going back into the economy.
The problem most people have are teh
bags that the news finds to interview. They do not help the cause by speaking. Anyone here in 97 remember the strike???? Remember being on the line and told not to talk to the media??? Refer media to so and so??? Thats because those of us that we allowed to talk to the media knew hat to say and how to say it.
This needs more organization and people to lead it properly instead of the free for all it has turned out to be.
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It's not a free for all. Granted, the media is pulling various types out to build a stereotype in the minds of the public but these Occupy Actions have more organization to them than you think. One example they are experimenting with before the public is a form of pure democracy. Every evening around 7 pm, each Occupy group has a general assembly and the floor is open for general business. If you have an idea or cause to put before the group, you can but you'll have to have built some initial consensus before hand in order to bring it before the larger assembly. In effect, you'll have to market your idea in a free market. If it passes that, then the full assembly hears your cause or idea and counterpoints are allowed to be voiced and then the assembly of equals at large votes and if the consensus carries, the idea or cause goes forward. This part of the action has been mostly left out by at least the Mainstream Media (MSM) but alternative media are covering these general assemblies. Credit goes to
RT for example.
In the "Current Events" forum under the "Demonstration" thread I posted a video from the OccupyAtlanta General Assembly meeting the other night in which Congressman John Lewis wanted to address the group. There were some folks who wanted this to happen almost as a arbitrary by virtue of Lewis' hierarchy standing in the state structure and his history in the civil rights movement which deserves respect obviously. However, the rules of the forum held and Lewis was denied the special treatment he wanted and he was treated on the same level as any of us if we were to show up wanting to speak. Lewis could have joined the ranks, built a consensus and then move to speak but no, he just abandoned the cause and left. IMO he had a purely political agenda. This form of leaderless democracy is an interesting experiment to watch work and has many pros and cons.
As for media broadcasting of examples that make the movement look bad, large crowds of this type especially in major metro areas will naturally attract people who live on the edge and often have mental issues in which they could act upon. Those are going to happen as a result of this just as a Tea Party event attract a few idiots who think it necessary to wave guns around in such a public setting. That does nothing IMO to advance a cause of the right to self defense in which I fully support but it is a purely macho thing for what I consider as males with little diks and little brains who use guns as a means to compensate.
Regardless of who might be "controlling" the crowd or "astro-turfing" the events or cause (yes I do believe some of that is happening), the majority of these people know and sense something is seriously wrong with our gov't and they would be right so now it's about having a conversation on going forward.
The several prior protests say for the G8, the G20 and just State Globalization in general have in many cases turned violet and there is reason to consider the so-called "Black Block" an action that is a cover for agent provocateurs within the crowd. It's not new either as the infamous CoIntelPro was used in similar fashion and more.
It's not to say I agree with all facets of the Occupy Movement nor do I agree in all facets with some stances they take or position demands they make. However, as I said, these folks sense something is wrong and that's always a first step towards a solution so I applaud them there. As for a leaderless movement, it's not leaderless because every person you see at these events are leaders themselves and unto themselves. As for the bad examples, ask yourself are they real or could they be a plant? Ask the critical questions, look and think about the situation and then if their actions are apart of the Occupy movement and you think it wrong, by all means speak out because if they act out wrong and begin to hear back for us who are watching, it could have an effect. I know for a fact they are listening!
The Chinese are not the bad guys --they are just Communist.
