Ok California. Now what?

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
I said that no other region in the country has the frequency or severity of the alleged global warming issues found in California and you respond using examples from South America and Australia, LOL.

Greece, canada, spain
The USA is big -3.8 million square miles- but it does not contain Greece, Canada, or Spain. Or the Amazon forest, or Australia.

LOL, you guys.
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
Most of them are due to volcanos, and I said that no other region in the country has the frequency or severity of the alleged global warming issues found in California.

But at least that's part of the USA, so you're making progress.
 

vantexan

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“A November 2022 studyexamined the spread of the omicron variant in California state prisons and found that participants who received at least one dose of the vaccine were 24% less likely to infect close contacts than those who were unvaccinated, those who had been previously infected were 21% less likely to spread the virus and participants who were previously infected and vaccinated were 41% less likely to pass on the virus.”

“mRNA Covid vaccines in pregnant people are linked to lower hospitalization rates in infants six months and younger, who are not eligible for any Covid vaccines. Infant vaccine effectiveness from two maternal doses against delta was 95%, and 97% against hospitalization due to the delta variant. Infant vaccine effectiveness from two maternal doses against omicron infection was 53%, and 73% against hospitalization due to omicron.”


And yet they didn't prevent infection or transmission like they were touted to do early on. Well known now. And the CDC's VER's website has many thousands of adverse effects listed including deaths. If one wants to take the vaccine fine. I took the Johnson and Johnson version because it's a traditional type vaccine as opposed to the new technology mRNA vaccines that were rushed through without the normal trials. I just think it's ludicrous to take away people's livelihoods if they don't comply. L.A.'s Fire Chief says they are way short on manpower. How come those firefighters weren't hired back after the pandemic ran its course? You don't want unvaccinated people interacting with the public during the pandemic is one thing. Refusing to hire them back afterwards is just vengeful and petty.
 

Doublestandards

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And yet they didn't prevent infection or transmission like they were touted to do early on. Well known now. And the CDC's VER's website has many thousands of adverse effects listed including deaths. If one wants to take the vaccine fine. I took the Johnson and Johnson version because it's a traditional type vaccine as opposed to the new technology mRNA vaccines that were rushed through without the normal trials. I just think it's ludicrous to take away people's livelihoods if they don't comply. L.A.'s Fire Chief says they are way short on manpower. How come those firefighters weren't hired back after the pandemic ran its course? You don't want unvaccinated people interacting with the public during the pandemic is one thing. Refusing to hire them back afterwards is just vengeful and petty.
It wasn’t a miracle drug, but it also wasn’t a sugar pill that does nothing but poison you is my point. People that spend too much time on social media think it’s one or the other

It was a low risk and safe way to slow down the spread and reduce hospitalizations and death of the vulnerable population
 

vantexan

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Take everything with a grain of salt when it comes to what's actually going on with these fires. CA has the largest firefighting force in the country and makes it a top priority all year round. Other states just don't have an understanding of how fire is just a part of the climate out here as rain and snow are. You can't plan for 100 mph winds blowing fire everywhere in a densely populated area.
But you can keep the fires from becoming as big by removing the fuel on the ground that builds up over time. Why don't you get that? In 2018 Trump offered billions in fire fighting assistance money if they would fill up their reservoirs and clear the underbrush. It's on video him speaking about it and Gavin Newsome replying a few days later at a press conference. Newsome and the California legislature refused the offer. Y'all are the worst kind of environmental wackos. You also have TDS.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
It wasn’t a miracle drug, but it also wasn’t a sugar pill that does nothing but poison you is my point. People that spend too much time on social media think it’s one or the other

It was a low risk and safe way to slow down the spread and reduce hospitalizations and death of the vulnerable population
Why couch it in extremes? Most who took it weren't adversely affected. But some were, and many didn't think it was worth the risk. And were constantly ridiculed and in some cases lost their livelihoods. And it has been proven since that if we hadn't taken the vaccines it would've run its course just as it did in Sweden where they didn't shut down at all. South Dakota and eventually Florida too. And those governors were lambasted as idiots and fools in the press and on this forum. And in the end they were proven right.
 
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Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
look at when industrial revolution started and look at when temperatures started to go up. perfect overlap.

i agree the earth goes in cycles but we were at the peak of a previous cycle last i recall.
I just gave you a graph that shows we are below average.
 

rickyb

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Most of them are due to volcanos, and I said that no other region in the country has the frequency or severity of the alleged global warming issues found in California.

But at least that's part of the USA, so you're making progress.
Miami flooding
 

MyTripisCut

Never bought my own handtruck

vantexan

Well-Known Member
I don’t get my news from X.
I don't either. How is it going in western North Carolina? People have already pointed out the extreme difficulty of getting building permits in the L.A. area. So much so that Newsom mentioned he was going to streamline the permitting process. One thing about a disaster like this is it exposes the flaws in policies that people had to deal with there.
 
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