ORION OR URANUS? got the cure to stop the termination threats GUARANTEED

[Indecisi0n]

Thanks for sharing....

Now I'm pooping but I don't want to read it.

 

[vvv]

CALLING ALL UPS PACKAGE SERVICE PROVIDERS.
It's time folks, time to take back our dignity, self respect, self worth and most of all our job security once and for all. First TELEMATICS was developed, per the Atlanta leaders, to improve our overall safety picture. REALLY who says? Someone in Atlanta should now provide the rank and file with the safety statistics to prove that injuries and auto accidents were in fact reduced since TELEMATICS was implemented. But they can't and they won't. We all know why TELEMATICS was developed don't we! Next came ORION or what we now refer to as their savior planet urANUS Jr.! And it won't stop there drivers. There will be more and more processes yet to be developed by Atlanta and the pressure on us will NEVER ever stop until we stand firm and hold our ground regarding ORION. And we can do it, I can guarantee it!! The Atlanta braniacs, specifically Mr. Peretz, claims that ORION has saved and will continue to save UPS millions of $$$$$$. After all UPS C.E.O. David Abney got a 21% total compensation increase back in 2016 so no wonder UPS needs to save money. And the talk continues about serious pension cuts???? Now we drivers all want UPS to save money and remain profitable but at whose expense? And we drivers all want UPS to prosper and gain additional business but we are tired of these computer brainiacs in Atlanta who have been telling us that there is a better way to run our areas, save fuel costs and save money. And in most cases we CAN'T follow ORION 100% of the time so UPS threatens us with our jobs because that's what they are good at when we can't work as directed and adhere to their newly developed processes. Not sure about you folks but we are done playing their games, tired of day after day, month after month, me and my brothers and sisters being threatened with our jobs because of ORION. Our proposed contract language operational change(s) will literally transform the face of UPS going forward but every driver who wants and desires a fool proof, totally legal and safe operational change will need to get involved and we believe that they will. Our backs have been pinned up against the wall long enough and Mr. Abney and the rest will not like the 2018 contract proposals(s). We have proposed to our UNION leadership language that will literally change the way UPS has been doing business for decades now. Our proposal(s) are game changers, but we will need every service provider to get on board so use the cafe to get the word out and then get with as many of your brothers and sisters to get them to go on line and read or even sign up on the cafe cause a change, "a very radical change", has been proposed to Mr. H. and Mr. O. And as many drivers as possible will soon need to read what we will be putting out here on the B C . July 2018 is approaching soon and a strong, viable message needs to be sent to UPS corporate Atlanta and that message is "change is a comin"!

WHAT THE * WAS ALL OF THAT??!!??!!

You ****.......you gave us NOTHING in that whole mess of nonsense.

 

[wide load]

CALLING ALL UPS PACKAGE SERVICE PROVIDERS.
It's time folks, time to take back our dignity, self respect, self worth and most of all our job security once and for all. First TELEMATICS was developed, per the Atlanta leaders, to improve our overall safety picture. REALLY who says? Someone in Atlanta should now provide the rank and file with the safety statistics to prove that injuries and auto accidents were in fact reduced since TELEMATICS was implemented. But they can't and they won't. We all know why TELEMATICS was developed don't we! Next came ORION or what we now refer to as their savior planet urANUS Jr.! And it won't stop there drivers. There will be more and more processes yet to be developed by Atlanta and the pressure on us will NEVER ever stop until we stand firm and hold our ground regarding ORION. And we can do it, I can guarantee it!! The Atlanta braniacs, specifically Mr. Peretz, claims that ORION has saved and will continue to save UPS millions of $$$$$$. After all UPS C.E.O. David Abney got a 21% total compensation increase back in 2016 so no wonder UPS needs to save money. And the talk continues about serious pension cuts???? Now we drivers all want UPS to save money and remain profitable but at whose expense? And we drivers all want UPS to prosper and gain additional business but we are tired of these computer brainiacs in Atlanta who have been telling us that there is a better way to run our areas, save fuel costs and save money. And in most cases we CAN'T follow ORION 100% of the time so UPS threatens us with our jobs because that's what they are good at when we can't work as directed and adhere to their newly developed processes. Not sure about you folks but we are done playing their games, tired of day after day, month after month, me and my brothers and sisters being threatened with our jobs because of ORION. Our proposed contract language operational change(s) will literally transform the face of UPS going forward but every driver who wants and desires a fool proof, totally legal and safe operational change will need to get involved and we believe that they will. Our backs have been pinned up against the wall long enough and Mr. Abney and the rest will not like the 2018 contract proposals(s). We have proposed to our UNION leadership language that will literally change the way UPS has been doing business for decades now. Our proposal(s) are game changers, but we will need every service provider to get on board so use the cafe to get the word out and then get with as many of your brothers and sisters to get them to go on line and read or even sign up on the cafe cause a change, "a very radical change", has been proposed to Mr. H. and Mr. O. And as many drivers as possible will soon need to read what we will be putting out here on the B C . July 2018 is approaching soon and a strong, viable message needs to be sent to UPS corporate Atlanta and that message is "change is a comin"!

I've used Orion twice in my life. The two rides I had with the Orion guy. What could possibly be this life changing proposal based upon this system that few people really use? I'd rather not waste a proposal on this. IMHO.

 

[MyTripisCut]

WHAT THE * WAS ALL OF THAT??!!??!!

You ****.......you gave us NOTHING in that whole mess of nonsense.

FACT

 

[OrionsBitch]

My guess is he is asserting it was developed to spy on us.
That is how it is used.
But it is better than the old method of "following" you around.
When they follow you they can actually see what you are doing. Sometimes they got lucky and saw some behavior that would lead to termination.

I like the virtual supervision better. Can't fire you, can't actually see you, and keeps you using the methods.

There is still plenty of following going on where I work. You are clearly and outliar and have some dirt on management. Your Orion dispatch lowers your stop country and you don't get followed by management?! Lol plz

 

[Bubblehead]

CALLING ALL UPS PACKAGE SERVICE PROVIDERS.
It's time folks, time to take back our dignity, self respect, self worth and most of all our job security once and for all. First TELEMATICS was developed, per the Atlanta leaders, to improve our overall safety picture. REALLY who says? Someone in Atlanta should now provide the rank and file with the safety statistics to prove that injuries and auto accidents were in fact reduced since TELEMATICS was implemented. But they can't and they won't. We all know why TELEMATICS was developed don't we! Next came ORION or what we now refer to as their savior planet urANUS Jr.! And it won't stop there drivers. There will be more and more processes yet to be developed by Atlanta and the pressure on us will NEVER ever stop until we stand firm and hold our ground regarding ORION. And we can do it, I can guarantee it!! The Atlanta braniacs, specifically Mr. Peretz, claims that ORION has saved and will continue to save UPS millions of $$$$$$. After all UPS C.E.O. David Abney got a 21% total compensation increase back in 2016 so no wonder UPS needs to save money. And the talk continues about serious pension cuts???? Now we drivers all want UPS to save money and remain profitable but at whose expense? And we drivers all want UPS to prosper and gain additional business but we are tired of these computer brainiacs in Atlanta who have been telling us that there is a better way to run our areas, save fuel costs and save money. And in most cases we CAN'T follow ORION 100% of the time so UPS threatens us with our jobs because that's what they are good at when we can't work as directed and adhere to their newly developed processes. Not sure about you folks but we are done playing their games, tired of day after day, month after month, me and my brothers and sisters being threatened with our jobs because of ORION. Our proposed contract language operational change(s) will literally transform the face of UPS going forward but every driver who wants and desires a fool proof, totally legal and safe operational change will need to get involved and we believe that they will. Our backs have been pinned up against the wall long enough and Mr. Abney and the rest will not like the 2018 contract proposals(s). We have proposed to our UNION leadership language that will literally change the way UPS has been doing business for decades now. Our proposal(s) are game changers, but we will need every service provider to get on board so use the cafe to get the word out and then get with as many of your brothers and sisters to get them to go on line and read or even sign up on the cafe cause a change, "a very radical change", has been proposed to Mr. H. and Mr. O. And as many drivers as possible will soon need to read what we will be putting out here on the B C . July 2018 is approaching soon and a strong, viable message needs to be sent to UPS corporate Atlanta and that message is "change is a comin"!

I'm going to attempt to read this, but paragraphs sure would be nice.

I thought it was a 'word find'???

So....I guess I made a mess of my computer monitor with a grease pencil for nothing?

 

[watdaflock?]

My guess is he is asserting it was developed to spy on us.
That is how it is used.

So what? Do what you're told and nothing happens.

 

[GUARANTEED CURE FOR ORION]

We were hoping that this thread would have reached those who would reply out of true compassion and concern for their brothers and sisters regarding what ORION is causing all over this country. We were testing the waters with this first thread and did not put out the facts just to see what initial responses we would get. It seems we have some comedic, non concerned jokesters on the cafe who may not see or are even concerned that fellow drivers in many centers and hubs throughout this country, who are currently being progressively documented for ORION non compliance, and are at the cusp of termination. Our intent is to protect the rank and file ONLY and much research has gone into our proposals to our Union leadership. So, to the "Orions Bitch" member, you are correct, we do have some "dirt" but cannot post here per Cheryl's guidelines! To the "wide load" member we did not waste a proposal to our Union leaders especially one that will improve job security and safety for every driver. Our safety and security is NOT a waste! To the "vvv" member, if we insulted you to the point that you needed to imply some profanity and profane name calling in your response we assure you that this in not NONSENSE as you imply as some of your brothers and sisters need some help while it appears you may not. To the"IndecisiOn" member, apathy and your "decision" not to show any concern by not reading our first thread is troubling to us and am sure to thousands of other drivers who are concerned about losing their jobs because of ORION. To the "11hour request" member, walls will continue to separate hourly and management until we break down those walls and use the leverage that is within our means. But then again you probably didn't read this "wall" of text now did you? To the member "MCO493" and the few others, PATIENCE PLEASE, our attorney is still working out a few details for us. By the way our attorney is a former UPSer, worked PT for UPS for 3 years and 11 years FT in management, studied law thru the Earn to Learn program while working at UPS, was then asked to leave the company and is now a successful attorney. To the "olroadbeech" member, you have no idea how accurate you may be as some of these perceived fantasy contract items by UPS will be presented and used in the 2018 negotiations as leverage to get what they want or to possibly take away from what we already have. And it will happen! To the "ManInBrown" member, you must know that you speak for thousands of drivers. And finally to the LeadBelly2.0 member, we have no desire to hang ourselves but rather we will provide statistical information to BC, within the guidelines set forth by Cheryl, to all current BC members and to hopefully hundreds and even thousands more new BC members who are interested in protecting their futures with UPS. And don't expend too much time and effort in discovering who we are LeadBelly as you will find out soon enough. Our information or "facts" that some members are looking for will be forthcoming soon and these "facts" will assist every service provider in determining just exactly when they will or want to leave this company and not when an overly zealous division manager or center manager or on road sup determines when we leave UPS!
And to those UPS Atlanta office boys and girls who are monitoring this very productive, informative, meaningful and necessary web site, make sure you report everything you read here and are about to read to those movers and shakers in higher places there because our contract in 2018 will not be a contract of give backs to the company as some have talked about but a contract that will give us back the dignity and respect every UPS driver has earned and deserves! Hows that for a paragraph break "Clock Sucker" member, we will try to do better?
And thanks to Cheryl and her group for developing and maintaining this vital forum of internet communication so that we proud Teamsters can communicate freely.

 

[cosmo1]

We were hoping that this thread would have reached those who would reply out of true compassion and concern for their brothers and sisters regarding what ORION is causing all over this country. We were testing the waters with this first thread and did not put out the facts just to see what initial responses we would get. It seems we have some comedic, non concerned jokesters on the cafe who may not see or are even concerned that fellow drivers in many centers and hubs throughout this country, who are currently being progressively documented for ORION non compliance, and are at the cusp of termination. Our intent is to protect the rank and file ONLY and much research has gone into our proposals to our Union leadership. So, to the "Orions Bitch" member, you are correct, we do have some "dirt" but cannot post here per Cheryl's guidelines! To the "wide load" member we did not waste a proposal to our Union leaders especially one that will improve job security and safety for every driver. Our safety and security is NOT a waste! To the "vvv" member, if we insulted you to the point that you needed to imply some profanity and profane name calling in your response we assure you that this in not NONSENSE as you imply as some of your brothers and sisters need some help while it appears you may not. To the"IndecisiOn" member, apathy and your "decision" not to show any concern by not reading our first thread is troubling to us and am sure to thousands of other drivers who are concerned about losing their jobs because of ORION. To the "11hour request" member, walls will continue to separate hourly and management until we break down those walls and use the leverage that is within our means. But then again you probably didn't read this "wall" of text now did you? To the member "MCO493" and the few others, PATIENCE PLEASE, our attorney is still working out a few details for us. By the way our attorney is a former UPSer, worked PT for UPS for 3 years and 11 years FT in management, studied law thru the Earn to Learn program while working at UPS, was then asked to leave the company and is now a successful attorney. To the "olroadbeech" member, you have no idea how accurate you may be as some of these perceived fantasy contract items by UPS will be presented and used in the 2018 negotiations as leverage to get what they want or to possibly take away from what we already have. And it will happen! To the "ManInBrown" member, you must know that you speak for thousands of drivers. And finally to the LeadBelly2.0 member, we have no desire to hang ourselves but rather we will provide statistical information to BC, within the guidelines set forth by Cheryl, to all current BC members and to hopefully hundreds and even thousands more new BC members who are interested in protecting their futures with UPS. And don't expend too much time and effort in discovering who we are LeadBelly as you will find out soon enough. Our information or "facts" that some members are looking for will be forthcoming soon and these "facts" will assist every service provider in determining just exactly when they will or want to leave this company and not when an overly zealous division manager or center manager or on road sup determines when we leave UPS!
And to those UPS Atlanta office boys and girls who are monitoring this very productive, informative, meaningful and necessary web site, make sure you report everything you read here and are about to read to those movers and shakers in higher places there because our contract in 2018 will not be a contract of give backs to the company as some have talked about but a contract that will give us back the dignity and respect every UPS driver has earned and deserves! Hows that for a paragraph break "Clock Sucker" member, we will try to do better?
And thanks to Cheryl and her group for developing and maintaining this vital forum of internet communication so that we proud Teamsters can communicate freely.

We?

 

[wide load]

We were hoping that this thread would have reached those who would reply out of true compassion and concern for their brothers and sisters regarding what ORION is causing all over this country.

You mean "a boat load of money"?

Thank you for saving our lives.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

We were hoping that this thread would have reached those who would reply out of true compassion and concern for their brothers and sisters regarding what ORION is causing all over this country. We were testing the waters with this first thread and did not put out the facts just to see what initial responses we would get. It seems we have some comedic, non concerned jokesters on the cafe who may not see or are even concerned that fellow drivers in many centers and hubs throughout this country, who are currently being progressively documented for ORION non compliance, and are at the cusp of termination. Our intent is to protect the rank and file ONLY and much research has gone into our proposals to our Union leadership. So, to the "Orions Bitch" member, you are correct, we do have some "dirt" but cannot post here per Cheryl's guidelines! To the "wide load" member we did not waste a proposal to our Union leaders especially one that will improve job security and safety for every driver. Our safety and security is NOT a waste! To the "vvv" member, if we insulted you to the point that you needed to imply some profanity and profane name calling in your response we assure you that this in not NONSENSE as you imply as some of your brothers and sisters need some help while it appears you may not. To the"IndecisiOn" member, apathy and your "decision" not to show any concern by not reading our first thread is troubling to us and am sure to thousands of other drivers who are concerned about losing their jobs because of ORION. To the "11hour request" member, walls will continue to separate hourly and management until we break down those walls and use the leverage that is within our means. But then again you probably didn't read this "wall" of text now did you? To the member "MCO493" and the few others, PATIENCE PLEASE, our attorney is still working out a few details for us. By the way our attorney is a former UPSer, worked PT for UPS for 3 years and 11 years FT in management, studied law thru the Earn to Learn program while working at UPS, was then asked to leave the company and is now a successful attorney. To the "olroadbeech" member, you have no idea how accurate you may be as some of these perceived fantasy contract items by UPS will be presented and used in the 2018 negotiations as leverage to get what they want or to possibly take away from what we already have. And it will happen! To the "ManInBrown" member, you must know that you speak for thousands of drivers. And finally to the LeadBelly2.0 member, we have no desire to hang ourselves but rather we will provide statistical information to BC, within the guidelines set forth by Cheryl, to all current BC members and to hopefully hundreds and even thousands more new BC members who are interested in protecting their futures with UPS. And don't expend too much time and effort in discovering who we are LeadBelly as you will find out soon enough. Our information or "facts" that some members are looking for will be forthcoming soon and these "facts" will assist every service provider in determining just exactly when they will or want to leave this company and not when an overly zealous division manager or center manager or on road sup determines when we leave UPS!
And to those UPS Atlanta office boys and girls who are monitoring this very productive, informative, meaningful and necessary web site, make sure you report everything you read here and are about to read to those movers and shakers in higher places there because our contract in 2018 will not be a contract of give backs to the company as some have talked about but a contract that will give us back the dignity and respect every UPS driver has earned and deserves! Hows that for a paragraph break "Clock Sucker" member, we will try to do better?
And thanks to Cheryl and her group for developing and maintaining this vital forum of internet communication so that we proud Teamsters can communicate freely.

Again....

Holy wall of text.

By the way our attorney is a former UPSer

That explains it. What a game changer. How much, is he charging you ??

The double face palm meme.... is forthcoming.



-Bug-

 

[Turdferguson]

We were hoping that this thread would have reached those who would reply out of true compassion and concern for their brothers and sisters regarding what ORION is causing all over this country. We were testing the waters with this first thread and did not put out the facts just to see what initial responses we would get. It seems we have some comedic, non concerned jokesters on the cafe who may not see or are even concerned that fellow drivers in many centers and hubs throughout this country, who are currently being progressively documented for ORION non compliance, and are at the cusp of termination. Our intent is to protect the rank and file ONLY and much research has gone into our proposals to our Union leadership. So, to the "Orions Bitch" member, you are correct, we do have some "dirt" but cannot post here per Cheryl's guidelines! To the "wide load" member we did not waste a proposal to our Union leaders especially one that will improve job security and safety for every driver. Our safety and security is NOT a waste! To the "vvv" member, if we insulted you to the point that you needed to imply some profanity and profane name calling in your response we assure you that this in not NONSENSE as you imply as some of your brothers and sisters need some help while it appears you may not. To the"IndecisiOn" member, apathy and your "decision" not to show any concern by not reading our first thread is troubling to us and am sure to thousands of other drivers who are concerned about losing their jobs because of ORION. To the "11hour request" member, walls will continue to separate hourly and management until we break down those walls and use the leverage that is within our means. But then again you probably didn't read this "wall" of text now did you? To the member "MCO493" and the few others, PATIENCE PLEASE, our attorney is still working out a few details for us. By the way our attorney is a former UPSer, worked PT for UPS for 3 years and 11 years FT in management, studied law thru the Earn to Learn program while working at UPS, was then asked to leave the company and is now a successful attorney. To the "olroadbeech" member, you have no idea how accurate you may be as some of these perceived fantasy contract items by UPS will be presented and used in the 2018 negotiations as leverage to get what they want or to possibly take away from what we already have. And it will happen! To the "ManInBrown" member, you must know that you speak for thousands of drivers. And finally to the LeadBelly2.0 member, we have no desire to hang ourselves but rather we will provide statistical information to BC, within the guidelines set forth by Cheryl, to all current BC members and to hopefully hundreds and even thousands more new BC members who are interested in protecting their futures with UPS. And don't expend too much time and effort in discovering who we are LeadBelly as you will find out soon enough. Our information or "facts" that some members are looking for will be forthcoming soon and these "facts" will assist every service provider in determining just exactly when they will or want to leave this company and not when an overly zealous division manager or center manager or on road sup determines when we leave UPS!
And to those UPS Atlanta office boys and girls who are monitoring this very productive, informative, meaningful and necessary web site, make sure you report everything you read here and are about to read to those movers and shakers in higher places there because our contract in 2018 will not be a contract of give backs to the company as some have talked about but a contract that will give us back the dignity and respect every UPS driver has earned and deserves! Hows that for a paragraph break "Clock Sucker" member, we will try to do better?
And thanks to Cheryl and her group for developing and maintaining this vital forum of internet communication so that we proud Teamsters can communicate freely.

Does this mean we can look forward to more thrilling threads like this

 

[cosmo1]

They are called posts, not threads.

Phishing expedition.

Nothing more to see here.

 

[Turdferguson]

Phishing expedition.

Nothing more to see here.

I misread his post, but thanks for saving it for posterity by quoting it.
Bastard

 

[cosmo1]

I misread his post, but thanks for saving it for posterity by quoting it.
Bastard

Just trying to be helpful.

I want to emulate you.

 

[clean hairy]

We were hoping that this thread would have reached those who would reply out of true compassion and concern for their brothers and sisters regarding what ORION is causing all over this country. We were testing the waters with this first thread and did not put out the facts just to see what initial responses we would get. It seems we have some comedic, non concerned jokesters on the cafe who may not see or are even concerned that fellow drivers in many centers and hubs throughout this country, who are currently being progressively documented for ORION non compliance, and are at the cusp of termination. Our intent is to protect the rank and file ONLY and much research has gone into our proposals to our Union leadership. So, to the "Orions Bitch" member, you are correct, we do have some "dirt" but cannot post here per Cheryl's guidelines! To the "wide load" member we did not waste a proposal to our Union leaders especially one that will improve job security and safety for every driver. Our safety and security is NOT a waste! To the "vvv" member, if we insulted you to the point that you needed to imply some profanity and profane name calling in your response we assure you that this in not NONSENSE as you imply as some of your brothers and sisters need some help while it appears you may not. To the"IndecisiOn" member, apathy and your "decision" not to show any concern by not reading our first thread is troubling to us and am sure to thousands of other drivers who are concerned about losing their jobs because of ORION. To the "11hour request" member, walls will continue to separate hourly and management until we break down those walls and use the leverage that is within our means. But then again you probably didn't read this "wall" of text now did you? To the member "MCO493" and the few others, PATIENCE PLEASE, our attorney is still working out a few details for us. By the way our attorney is a former UPSer, worked PT for UPS for 3 years and 11 years FT in management, studied law thru the Earn to Learn program while working at UPS, was then asked to leave the company and is now a successful attorney. To the "olroadbeech" member, you have no idea how accurate you may be as some of these perceived fantasy contract items by UPS will be presented and used in the 2018 negotiations as leverage to get what they want or to possibly take away from what we already have. And it will happen! To the "ManInBrown" member, you must know that you speak for thousands of drivers. And finally to the LeadBelly2.0 member, we have no desire to hang ourselves but rather we will provide statistical information to BC, within the guidelines set forth by Cheryl, to all current BC members and to hopefully hundreds and even thousands more new BC members who are interested in protecting their futures with UPS. And don't expend too much time and effort in discovering who we are LeadBelly as you will find out soon enough. Our information or "facts" that some members are looking for will be forthcoming soon and these "facts" will assist every service provider in determining just exactly when they will or want to leave this company and not when an overly zealous division manager or center manager or on road sup determines when we leave UPS!
And to those UPS Atlanta office boys and girls who are monitoring this very productive, informative, meaningful and necessary web site, make sure you report everything you read here and are about to read to those movers and shakers in higher places there because our contract in 2018 will not be a contract of give backs to the company as some have talked about but a contract that will give us back the dignity and respect every UPS driver has earned and deserves! Hows that for a paragraph break "Clock Sucker" member, we will try to do better?
And thanks to Cheryl and her group for developing and maintaining this vital forum of internet communication so that we proud Teamsters can communicate freely.

Is anyone able to decipher or translate the original post and this one as well?
Or is he trying to write a novel that makes War and Peace look like a short story?

 

[LeadBelly]

There is still plenty of following going on where I work. You are clearly and outliar and have some dirt on management. Your Orion dispatch lowers your stop country and you don't get followed by management?! Lol plz

Your posting style resembles mine sometimes. I wonder if we are the same poster!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[LeadBelly]

I thought it was a 'word find'???

So....I guess I made a mess of my computer monitor with a grease pencil for nothing?

Can you decipher it.

 

[Bubblehead]

Can you decipher it.

Nope, still gibberish.

 

[LeadBelly]

Nope, still gibberish.

Yup I'm right there with ya...