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qdg2

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Joe fell again…. I know y’all haven’t heard about it on your media outlets. Just trying to keep you informed on what’s really going on.
And at the Air Force graduation for God's sake. How utterly embarrassing. The USA laughingstock of the World. Brought to you by the Democrat Party.
 

qdg2

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Joe fell again…. I know y’all haven’t heard about it on your media outlets. Just trying to keep you informed on what’s really going on.
And Kamala Harris in the wings......omg.

If Joe doesn't resign because of medical reasons.....he will at least be impeached because of his influence peddling and enriching of his family on our dime.

You won't see much of this because of the Trump indictments.

The Democrats are truly frightened of Trump. And DeSantis.
 

AB831

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Because the remainder of your comment was irrelevant disinformation and not pertinent. It was also easily accessible simply by tapping the arrow for those who care.
So you just edit out the parts you don’t like? No wonder you think Daily Wire is a reputable source 🤣🤣
 

AB831

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Video shows boxes of books removed from a middle school library that were “banned by the DeSantis regime in Florida.”
true
false
PolitiFact - Video of books removed from a Florida middle school were old, not censored
Ok, so one school was doing spring cleaning. What does this prove?
 

bacha29

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Woulda, coulda, shoulda.....lol. Possibly.....lucky break.....you sound as if we cheated somehow. Clear sailing? You think we would have sat around watching Japs come ashore? Really? As we turned out guns by the millions and planes by the tens of thousands? Really? And with A-bombs.....? Really? And you don't think we wouldn't have sent B-29 after B-29 over Midway with an A-bomb until it sank into the ocean? Or even dropped A-bombs over their fleet? Germany couldn't even conquer the English Channel....23 miles.

This isn't Harry Turtledove(writes fanciful "what if" alternate history).

You seem disappointed we won the war.....

My God.

And Joe McCarthy?.....again was spot on. Don't worry about "what did him in". He was exactly right....and you know it. Hollywood is(right now) full of hard core communist/socialist/liberal Democrats.......far far left. This is settled history. Please don't insult our intelligence. Come on.
If he was right then why couldn't he name a single card carrying Communist party member who was also a State Department employee. After going on and on and on but still not producing anything more than accusations and conspiracy theories the US Senate got tired of listening to him and censured him. The only person who was actually charged
and convicted was Alger Hiss and that was on a perjury charge not an espionage charge.

The problem plagued (pressurization and engines) B29 did not come online until late 1944. A fully loaded B29 from San Francisco would have have had to make a 3200 mile trip to Midway into a westerly headwind deliver it's payload and fly another 3200 miles back to San Francisco. given it's reliability problems how many do you think would have made it to Midway let along making it back? A BTW the bomb didn't become operation until nearly 4 years after the war started.

When the US entered WWII it had total strength of 200,000 while at the same time Japan's army and navy alone had a combined strength of more than 750,000 and was the world's third largest navy. So get real man. Crippled by the worst depression in it's history and attacked on two fronts by 3 hostile nations the American representative democracy found itself in it's greatest peril in it's history.
 

qdg2

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If he was right then why couldn't he name a single card carrying Communist party member who was also a State Department employee. After going on and on and on but still not producing anything more than accusations and conspiracy theories the US Senate got tired of listening to him and censured him. The only person who was actually charged
and convicted was Alger Hiss and that was on a perjury charge not an espionage charge.

The problem plagued (pressurization and engines) B29 did not come online until late 1944. A fully loaded B29 from San Francisco would have have had to make a 3200 mile trip to Midway into a westerly headwind deliver it's payload and fly another 3200 miles back to San Francisco. given it's reliability problems how many do you think would have made it to Midway let along making it back? A BTW the bomb didn't become operation until nearly 4 years after the war started.

When the US entered WWII it had total strength of 200,000 while at the same time Japan's army and navy alone had a combined strength of more than 750,000 and was the world's third largest navy. So get real man. Crippled by the worst depression in it's history and attacked on two fronts by 3 hostile nations the American representative democracy found itself in it's greatest peril in it's history.
Get real man.

You don't think they would send B-29's on one-way missions to end the war? Only one had to make it.........

I don't get your point?

Hollywood is commie.......settled history.
 

vantexan

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If he was right then why couldn't he name a single card carrying Communist party member who was also a State Department employee. After going on and on and on but still not producing anything more than accusations and conspiracy theories the US Senate got tired of listening to him and censured him. The only person who was actually charged
and convicted was Alger Hiss and that was on a perjury charge not an espionage charge.

The problem plagued (pressurization and engines) B29 did not come online until late 1944. A fully loaded B29 from San Francisco would have have had to make a 3200 mile trip to Midway into a westerly headwind deliver it's payload and fly another 3200 miles back to San Francisco. given it's reliability problems how many do you think would have made it to Midway let along making it back? A BTW the bomb didn't become operation until nearly 4 years after the war started.

When the US entered WWII it had total strength of 200,000 while at the same time Japan's army and navy alone had a combined strength of more than 750,000 and was the world's third largest navy. So get real man. Crippled by the worst depression in it's history and attacked on two fronts by 3 hostile nations the American representative democracy found itself in it's greatest peril in it's history.
Fine to speculate what if's. But you talk as if it almost happened. We already know that Japan wasn't going to invade the U.S. because, as one of their admirals said after the war, forget which one, the U.S. had a gun behind every blade of grass. And yet your party wants to get rid of guns. 🤔
 

qdg2

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Fine to speculate what if's. But you talk as if it almost happened. We already know that Japan wasn't going to invade the U.S. because, as one of their admirals said after the war, forget which one, the U.S. had a gun behind every blade of grass. And yet your party wants to get rid of guns. 🤔
It's not ok to speculate what if's to bolster your argument. It's a false flag.

One doesn't have to do with the other. It's meaningless wishful thinking.
 

Nolimitz

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So
Fine to speculate what if's. But you talk as if it almost happened. We already know that Japan wasn't going to invade the U.S. because, as one of their admirals said after the war, forget which one, the U.S. had a gun behind every blade of grass. And yet your party wants to get rid of guns. 🤔
So the battle of Midway never happened where almost the entire Japanese fleet was sunk? 4 or 5 Jap carriers to 1 US
 

vantexan

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It's not ok to speculate what if's to bolster your argument. It's a false flag.

One doesn't have to do with the other. It's meaningless wishful thinking.
People can BS and speculate about anything. Just don't try to revise known history to win debates.
 

vantexan

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So

So the battle of Midway never happened where almost the entire Japanese fleet was sunk? 4 or 5 Jap carriers to 1 US

Of course it happened. Never said it didn't. He tried to portray how lucky we were to get through that. And that Germany and Japan came very close to occupying the U.S. Never came close to that.
 

bacha29

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Get real man.

You don't think they would send B-29's on one-way missions to end the war? Only one had to make it.........

I don't get your point?

Hollywood is commie.......settled history.
Quiet blaming your lack of understanding of World War II on the communists. It would appear that you didn't know that the communists fought on the side of the Allies and lost 25 million of it's own population. Oh and BTW, you're the one who had the big idea of using B29's to A Bomb Midway. That was until you were informed of the fact that it couldn't be done.

Look Bud, I'm no World War II professional historian. At the same time however I maintain 3 paid subscriptions 1 online and 2 in print. All 3 are exclusively devoted to World War II. If you were to do the same I guarantee you that you would be surprised if not shocked at the events that took place between 1929 and 1945.
 

qdg2

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Quiet blaming your lack of understanding of World War II on the communists. It would appear that you didn't know that the communists fought on the side of the Allies and lost 25 million of it's own population. Oh and BTW, you're the one who had the big idea of using B29's to A Bomb Midway. That was until you were informed of the fact that it couldn't be done.

Look Bud, I'm no World War II professional historian. At the same time however I maintain 3 paid subscriptions 1 online and 2 in print. All 3 are exclusively devoted to World War II. If you were to do the same I guarantee you that you would be surprised if not shocked at the events that took place between 1929 and 1945.
Look Bud, How do you know what could be done? You can fly an airplane a long ways if it doesn't have to come back. Fact. The USA was just getting rolling at the end of the war. We set back Germany and Japan for 70 years of which they have still not recovered. Russia too. We won the war despite the Democrats. Fact. As much as you hate that.

The "communists" teamed with us so they weren't slaughtered into oblivion.
OMG. I never said anything of the kind. Read carefully. A simpleton knows they were our allies for awhile.....

Jesus God you are obtuse.

This imaginary rewriting of history is stupid. And a waste of time.

Say, why are you so pro communist?
 

Lates

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Again, Red states have very large minority populations, often with high poverty rates within those populations. A lot of Federal assistance. Then there are all the military bases. You focused on Tennessee. Ever hear of Oak Ridge, TN? Huge amount of Federal spending there.

By the way California at one time was very Republican. Republican businessmen built that huge economy. Liberals moving in eventually had the numbers politically to take over and they wanted to share all that wealth. Whatever good intentions there were when that all started has turned California into what it is today and it's leading the nation in the most of its citizens leaving for better conditions elsewhere.
Drive around some rural areas in tn it isn’t minorities getting most of the assistance. Plenty of white people play the system getting tencare, food stamps and many other programs some really need it some are just lazy. Most of the money used in those programs come from blue states. Tn loves to gives tax breaks to companies to bring in new jobs but the jobs pay below what it cost to live In the area.
 

bacha29

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Look Bud, How do you know what could be done? You can fly an airplane a long ways if it doesn't have to come back. Fact. The USA was just getting rolling at the end of the war. We set back Germany and Japan for 70 years of which they have still not recovered. Russia too. We won the war despite the Democrats. Fact. As much as you hate that.

The "communists" teamed with us so they weren't slaughtered into oblivion.
OMG. I never said anything of the kind. Read carefully. A simpleton knows they were our allies for awhile.....

Jesus God you are obtuse.

This imaginary rewriting of history is stupid. And a waste of time.

Say, why are you so pro communist?
Gee, I didn't know that the 405,000 Americans killed in WWII (population at the time 138 million) were all Republicans The British have always cringed at the idea that the US won the war all by itself. Wait till they find out that the entire US armed forces were all Republicans.

FDR's predecessor was Republican Herbert Hoover . The Great Depression happened on his watch. He had 3 years to pull the country out of it but did basically nothing. Four attempts and the GOP still couldn't beat FDR including the fourth time when they couldn't even defeat Roosevelt despite the well known fact that the man was dying .

Indeed, as you said the US was rolling at the END of the war. But the BEGINNING two years we were outmanned, out gunned and the odds were not in our favor.

If my uncle was still alive he would fall of his chair laughing at your preposterous notion of sending a B29 out of San Francisco to A bomb Midway. He was the copilot on a B24. 51 missions out of Italy with the XV. He also got quite a little bit of time on a B29 as the XV was preparing to be deployed to the Pacific. He said that it was enormous leap in airplane design but a very troublesome and marginally reliable aircraft as evidenced by records showing that of the 414 B29's lost in WWII 267 of them were lost to engine fires. Doubts about the plane were so abundant that the less technologically advanced B32 was entering production with some early models flying missions. So sending a B29 on a suicide mission to Midway there's a good chance it would have caught on fire and crashed long before it got there. So much for that big idea of yours.
 

vantexan

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Drive around some rural areas in tn it isn’t minorities getting most of the assistance. Plenty of white people play the system getting tencare, food stamps and many other programs some really need it some are just lazy. Most of the money used in those programs come from blue states. Tn loves to gives tax breaks to companies to bring in new jobs but the jobs pay below what it cost to live In the area.
No doubt. I've lived in TN in two cities for 4 years. The question is, do you take the jobs offered(as in TN giving breaks), or do you tell people needing jobs that they'll just have to do without because you(the government) know what's best for them and you're not going to get companies to come in if you deem the jobs too low paying? As far as I'm concerned if local jobs are crap then move to where they pay better. That may mean higher living costs. Worse weather. People should individually weigh pros and cons instead of having government dictate how they'll live their lives.
 
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