overworked grievance

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Mostly true. Not every local "has your back". Some will go behind it and youll feel the pain.
I say take your phone and shoot pics of the egress violations, write a signed letter to osha, and send the pics with it. Things will get better alot faster than filing a grievance and either load positions will be added or the original problem you posted about will be balanced out. I go with an osha report for the win.

Advising someone to use their cell phones to take pictures of our internal operations may not be the best advice to give, regardless of whether the pictures will only be used to support an OSHA complaint and will not be posted on social media.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Advising someone to use their cell phones to take pictures of our internal operations may not be the best advice to give, regardless of whether the pictures will only be used to support an OSHA complaint and will not be posted on social media.

Uh, dude, youre way behind. On 08-30-16 the NLRB made the company post a retraction of the company policy restricting the use of recording devices (for voice, video, and still photos). The employee is absolutely protected especially in the arena of OSHA and other federal violations. Maybe before you give advice you should
A. know what youre talking about and
B. consider the plight of hourly workers issues before you (as usual) kiss managements ring or something like that.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Uh, dude, youre way behind. On 08-30-16 the NLRB made the company post a retraction of the company policy restricting the use of recording devices (for voice, video, and still photos). The employee is absolutely protected especially in the arena of OSHA and other federal violations. Maybe before you give advice you should
A. know what youre talking about and
B. consider the plight of hourly workers issues before you (as usual) kiss managements ring or something like that.

Using your cell phone to take pics in my building will earn you an escort to the parking lot.

Dude.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Using your cell phone to take pics in my building will earn you an escort to the parking lot.

Dude.

With a paid day off.

Dudette

 

[Frankie's Friend]

You all may want to share this info with your local. For some reason it seems to be suppressed, go figure.

 

[MenInBrown]

So your'e saying that loading 1,100 plus packages in 5 hours at $11.50 an hour is a fair days pay for a fair days work? I would have to disagree.

Wow. 18 years ago when I was preloading, I had to do 1500-1800 everyday in 4 hours or less. WTH are you whining about? Geez and I was getting paid $9.50/hr. Congrats on your next job, you won’t make it here.

 

[wide load]

yeah dude give me more hours, peak season I would go to a different building even after my shift and work 12 hours a day. I load belt to car so when they push all these ing packages out in 5 hours I can’t just leave them on a slide they get stacked out in and in front of the car so I can’t even get in, missing a package that goes by the belt is like a cardinal sin and management will try to write you up and tempers flare. This is downright immoral, and dude yeah if I was getting paid 30+ dollars an hour I wouldn’t care how much work I had either so don’t try to compare it. I do more labor than you and I can’t even pay my rent at the end of the month. So have fun rolling around in your truck sipping your big gulp making bank.

I will!! Cuz I’ve been there for 25 years. I’ve earned my place. I was a part timer for 7 years. My first paycheck was 88 bucks. They are now $2000. Your entire complaint falls upon you and you alone. I’ll try to give you some advice, GROW A SET OF BALLS AND WORK AT YOUR OWN PACE! STOP FOCUSING ON WHAT OTHERS DO OR DONT. NUT UP AND EITHER WORK YOUR ASS OFF OR...DONT. I choose to the work at my own pace and make over 100,000 a year. There are others that do the same work as me with the same pay and they make about 75k a year. Do you know why?

 

[PT Car Washer]

Wow. 18 years ago when I was preloading, I had to do 1500-1800 everyday in 4 hours or less. WTH are you whining about? Geez and I was getting paid $9.50/hr. Congrats on your next job, you won’t make it here.

Because 18 years later Union preloaders are being paid $10.20/hr. You don't see a problem with this?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Because 18 years later Union preloaders are being paid $10.20/hr. You don't see a problem with this?

I see a huge problem with his math—-no way he was loading 1500-1800 pkgs on to pkg cars each day. Those are Peak numbers.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Wow. 18 years ago when I was preloading, I had to do 1500-1800 everyday in 4 hours or less. WTH are you whining about? Geez and I was getting paid $9.50/hr. Congrats on your next job, you won’t make it here.

Yeah dude, you were loading a straight truck or pup trailer before you went into management.

 

[1989]

Using your cell phone to take pics in my building will earn you an escort to the parking lot.

Dude.

I would have never had a problem taking pictures in the last 6 buildings I’ve worked in.

 

[1989]

Wow. 18 years ago when I was preloading, I had to do 1500-1800 everyday in 4 hours or less. WTH are you whining about? Geez and I was getting paid $9.50/hr. Congrats on your next job, you won’t make it here.

24 years ago I could have put on a certain 2 cars that you would be lucky to do 190 pph. Mar was about 210.

 

[eats packages]

Wow. 18 years ago when I was preloading, I had to do 1500-1800 everyday in 4 hours or less. WTH are you whining about? Geez and I was getting paid $9.50/hr. Congrats on your next job, you won’t make it here.

I see a huge problem with his math—-no way he was loading 1500-1800 pkgs on to pkg cars each day. Those are Peak numbers.

24 years ago I could have put on a certain 2 cars that you would be lucky to do 190 pph. Mar was about 210.

Trailers, the general goal for that rose slightly to 500.
Preload numbers dropped slightly from roughly 250 to roughly 200

What we do not know is if OP has been consistant with the pph for the past 2 yrs, and just now management has a problem with the production.....

What we do not know is if management has been consistent with the production for the past 2yrs, and just now OP has a problem with the pph.

 

[eats packages]

This is my math for my high/low pace compared to hours given to load pcs on my assignment.

Peak: Between -.3 and +1.1 hours.
Last week: Between +1.75 and +2.63 hours.

We are still getting 8 hours worth in volume and yet we are permanently capped at 5.5 hours max.
Compared to peak 9-10 hours worth in volume and we get 9.5 hours max.

 

[1989]

Trailers, the general goal for that rose slightly to 500.
Preload numbers dropped slightly from roughly 250 to roughly 200

If MAR was 220 in 1994 before PAS, I would think it should be at least 250-270 today.

 

[eats packages]

If MAR was 220 in 1994 before PAS, I would think it should be at least 250-270 today.

Not only do I look at the address, I have to ignore the address, look at the pal. compare whether the address was pal'd logically. Move the package closer or further in order of whether or not it was pal'd logically. Scan it. Write on it. Everyone's cages are full including mine and I can no longer preselect.

There are literal courtyards that get loaded onto 3 different shelf positions. Straightaway streets that get loaded onto all 8 even when there is only one split.

 

[1989]

Not only do I look at the address, I have to ignore the address, look at the pal. compare whether the address was pal'd logically. Move the package closer or further in order of whether or not it was pal'd logically. Scan it. Write on it. Everyone's cages are full including mine and I can no longer preselect.

There are literal courtyards that get loaded onto 3 different shelf positions. Straightaway streets that get loaded onto all 8 even when there is only one split.

Not your problem. Load by sequence # on pal label. End of story. NO CUSTOM LOADS.

 

[eats packages]

Not your problem. Load by sequence # on pal label. End of story. NO CUSTOM LOADS.

Oh buddy, I don't custom load. But I still have to peek at the address. since, ya know, there are buisnesses mixed with residentials. And visualizing spaces is important when everything comes out of sequence.
The last 2-3 didgets on these things might as well not exist.
shelf 1000-early main road rv park. vs. shelf 1000 - side street with some houses on it.

 

[1989]

Oh buddy, I don't custom load. But I still have to peek at the address. since, ya know, there are buisnesses mixed with residentials. And visualizing spaces is important when everything comes out of sequence.
The last 2-3 didgets on these things might as well not exist.
shelf 1000-early main road rv park. vs. shelf 1000 - side street with some houses on it.

Not the loaders problem.

 

[Neutral]

If I worked longer than 5 hours I get kicked off the clock
literally a supervisor will walk down the belt. last 50 packages sitting out
"clock out"
Ok bro.

Yeah, and then either someone else just tosses the last 50 in or the driver is left with it and he says why is all this stuff left out. A lot of times I hear complaints about the preloader when they were told to leave. Also if you're trucks look pretty decent on a bad day and you aren't too stacked out you are made to leave you're area to go help elsewhere when the belt is shut off. It would be a good time to catch up and make sure you're trucks are good and organized but instead you never catch up completely.