Palestinian-Israel Conflict (War?)

rickyb

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Bombing in the south was very limited. And what's going on isn't genocide. It's war started by Hamas and Israel wants to make sure Hamas can never attack them again from Gaza.
20000 dead civilians in 2 months isnt genocide???

how many injured?

youre saying israel is just a terrible shot

and btw does israel even have a right to violently defend its occupation? or is that satan?

everything was hunky dory before october 7th???
 

vantexan

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20000 dead civilians in 2 months isnt genocide???

how many injured?

youre saying israel is just a terrible shot

and btw does israel even have a right to violently defend its occupation? or is that satan?

everything was hunky dory before october 7th???
Two million peace loving Arabs in Israel says to me that there wouldn't be strife if the Islamists in Gaza, the West Bank, and southern Lebanon would learn to live in peace.

War is hell and Hamas started it. Damn shame anyone had to die but the deaths will be greatly reduced after Hamas is taken out. You sound like you don want Hamas defeated.
 

fishtm2001

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Two million peace loving Arabs in Israel says to me that there wouldn't be strife if the Islamists in Gaza, the West Bank, and southern Lebanon would learn to live in peace.

War is hell and Hamas started it. Damn shame anyone had to die but the deaths will be greatly reduced after Hamas is taken out. You sound like you don want Hamas defeated.
For years Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between Gaza and the West Bank — bringing PLO President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up Hamas. The idea being to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.
 

rickyb

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Two million peace loving Arabs in Israel says to me that there wouldn't be strife if the Islamists in Gaza, the West Bank, and southern Lebanon would learn to live in peace.

War is hell and Hamas started it. Damn shame anyone had to die but the deaths will be greatly reduced after Hamas is taken out. You sound like you don want Hamas defeated.
when did hamas start it? everything was just dandy before october 7th?

israel is peaceful? theyve never occupied other countries or started any wars?
 

vantexan

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For years Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between Gaza and the West Bank — bringing PLO President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up Hamas. The idea being to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.
Hmm, I seem to recall Abbas not accepting a two state solution. Am I wrong?
 

rickyb

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For years Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between Gaza and the West Bank — bringing PLO President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up Hamas. The idea being to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.
yea i heard israel liked to play the west bank politicians off hamas too.

israel doesnt want a 2 state solution , they want to expand their territory.
 

fishtm2001

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yea i heard israel liked to play the west bank politicians off hamas too.

israel doesnt want a 2 state solution , they want to expand their territory.
This allowed Hamas to be upgraded from a terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, which opened the door to receive infusions of cash from abroad.
Israel also allowed suitcases holding millions in Qatari cash to enter Gaza through its crossings since 2018, in order to maintain its fragile ceasefire with the Hamas rulers of the Strip. Bye bye Bibi.
 

vantexan

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this conflict did not start october 7th

why do you think the media is telling you that?
Yes Ricky there's been conflict between the two groups for decades. But this war started October 7 when Hamas attacked Israeli civilians and committed unspeakable acts of brutality.
 

vantexan

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This allowed Hamas to be upgraded from a terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, which opened the door to receive infusions of cash from abroad.
Israel also allowed suitcases holding millions in Qatari cash to enter Gaza through its crossings since 2018, in order to maintain its fragile ceasefire with the Hamas rulers of the Strip. Bye bye Bibi.
Hamas leaders are billionaires living the life of luxury in Qatar. Instead of spending international aid on their people they've siphoned off a lot for themselves and spent the rest on weapons and tunnels.
 

rickyb

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Yes Ricky there's been conflict between the two groups for decades. But this war started October 7 when Hamas attacked Israeli civilians and committed unspeakable acts of brutality.
what makes you think the war didnt start sooner with israel for example occupying gaza and not letting people escape the miserable conditions it imposes for 20 years?

youre right theres been problems for decades!
 

vantexan

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what makes you think the war didnt start sooner with israel for example occupying gaza and not letting people escape the miserable conditions it imposes for 20 years?

youre right theres been problems for decades!
Israel's troops only entered Gaza since Hamas took over for punitive raids after Israelis were attacked. There were no Israeli troops in Gaza on October 7th.
 
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