Panel hearing for termination

[Powder]

It wasnt just a watch.. It was roughly $10-$14000 in hardware bud. Thats a felony off the bat not to mention anything else UPS throws on top of it. $400 watch UPS wouldve probably shrugged that off but theres no way they turn their heads on $15k.

That’s what we been asking them for. We asked for a police report so we can add his name in & they said we didn’t file. We paid out the insurance per my BA & local pres

 

[Powder]

Or roll on who ever he bought the watch from. There's gotta be phone records etc. Ive heard about how these investigations go over the years from Sr management lunches lol.. They have what they need. You just wont know what that is until you get there. Id most certainly not say * and let your lawyer do ALL of the talking.

Can’t take the lawyer to panel. Only can file after the fact.

 

[Jkloc420]

Will good luck with said panel

 

[Powder]

Maybe not, you said ups said you scanned said package in the package car, so maybe they think you had somebody steal it after you dropped it off or something

I’m not sure what they exactly think. Package wasn’t on my vehicle. Shows got scanned to whatever truck it was meant for then shows it’s back in facility getting processed. But I’m a driver and loaders are who scan packages on car when loading not the drivers

 

[DiadesSuk]

Can’t take the lawyer to panel. Only can file after the fact.

Unions sound great until you're on the line for a felony lol. Be careful about what you say.. Last thing you want to do is be forced to leave your Constitutional rights at the door and accidentally say something that incriminates yourself. Good luck bro.

 

[Jkloc420]

I’m not sure what they exactly think. Package wasn’t on my vehicle. Shows got scanned to whatever truck it was meant for then shows it’s back in facility getting processed. But I’m a driver and loaders are who scan packages on car when loading not the drivers

Ok good luck at your panel

 

[BeefiestMass]

I don't understand how they can fire you for this, or maybe I'm missing something. No reason to think you stole it, wouldn't make sense.

 

[Swanson]

Don't forget to have a bail bonds agent on standby

 

[Powder]

I don't understand how they can fire you for this, or maybe I'm missing something. No reason to think you stole it, wouldn't make sense.

Me having a watch that I can prove with messages from the seller should immediately been overturned. That’s there proof and all they have disclosed per request from BAs. Basically I’m guilty until proven innocent and need more proof. I asked if I bring that guy here how would you know that guy stole it or would you even believe it was him. Labor board said we don’t know what we would think. Pretty much sounds like a lose lose but I’m gonna fight it

 

[DiadesSuk]

I don't understand how they can fire you for this, or maybe I'm missing something. No reason to think you stole it, wouldn't make sense.

lol possession of stolen property is a crime. the fact the stolen property was stolen at his place of employment is grounds for dismissal. Because logically, whats the odds that the OP messages a guy randomly on FB that he has never met and buys a watch that was stolen from his hub and possibly in his possession? Theres another probable cause there to terminate.

 

[DiadesSuk]

Me having a watch that I can prove with messages from the seller should immediately been overturned. That’s there proof and all they have disclosed per request from BAs. Basically I’m guilty until proven innocent and need more proof. I asked if I bring that guy here how would you know that guy stole it or would you even believe it was him. Labor board said we don’t know what we would think. Pretty much sounds like a lose lose but I’m gonna fight it

It would be in your favor to provide LE with that guys details and provide those things in a police report. My gut says UPS is trying to avoid a media circus or issues with customers. Who were the phones going to?

 

[Powder]

It would be in your favor to provide LE with that guys details and provide those things in a police report. My gut says UPS is trying to avoid a media circus or issues with customers. Who were the phones going to?

I tried filing a police report and gave his info. Got told from the detective I can’t cause I wasn’t frauded since the watch worked and I was ok with it. Detective stated ups has to file charges then I can add in 3rd party but since iOS hasn’t I’m stuck not being able to

 

[Powder]

lol possession of stolen property is a crime. the fact the stolen property was stolen at his place of employment is grounds for dismissal. Because logically, whats the odds that the OP messages a guy randomly on FB that he has never met and buys a watch that was stolen from his hub and possibly in his possession? Theres another probable cause there to terminate.

As for possession of property,since I returned the property once they told me it was stolen I can’t be charged per PA

 

[burrheadd]

I didn’t know it was stolen. Met some guy from marketplace and before gave him the money I made sure it wasn’t locked. It connected so I thought it was all good

@Powder what kind of powder are you referring to in your user name

 

[Powder]

@Powder what kind of powder are you referring to in your user name

I’m bald & super white lol. Guys from work named me after the movie hahaha

 

[burrheadd]

From the hub. Had to be. We looked up tracking info. Shows loaded on car 8:30 then 9:12 processing in facility l. We start at 9

Got some bad news for ya
Show up to that hearing and you’ll be locked up shortly after

 

[oldngray]

lol possession of stolen property is a crime. the fact the stolen property was stolen at his place of employment is grounds for dismissal. Because logically, whats the odds that the OP messages a guy randomly on FB that he has never met and buys a watch that was stolen from his hub and possibly in his possession? Theres another probable cause there to terminate.

Best case is he would just lose what he claims he paid for the watch. Most likely is just fired without criminal charges.

 

[DiadesSuk]

Got some bad news for ya
Show up to that hearing and you’ll be locked up shortly after

At UPS it may wel be Guilty until proven innocent but if he really didnt steal them his lawyer will resolve the other stuff pretty fast. Hell if the union isnt even in your corner thats a bad sign.

 

[Powder]

Best case is he would just lose what he claims he paid for the watch. Most likely is just fired without criminal charges.

I’ll be honest,I’m not worried about charges. This is fully wanting my job back. I can always get another watch and even for the back pay, sucks to lose it but I’m not worried about it.

 

[BeefiestMass]

Because logically, whats the odds that the OP messages a guy randomly on FB that he has never met and buys a watch that was stolen from his hub and possibly in his possession?

That doesn't sound unlikely at all to me.